Another GT3 Clubsport vs. G27 thread

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Ok, I know there are many topics about this on all kinds of forums, but I still have some questions unanswered.

For a long time I was sure I'd get the G27 when I had the money saved up, but when I realized the GT3 with clubsport pedals was about the same price, I started to think this over much harder.

Basically I've narrowed it down to a few things. First off are the brake pedals on these units. The CSP were clearly the winner for me in this category until I found the Andy Pastore load cell mod for the G27 brake pedal. This brings the G27 pedals right up to the level of the CSP. The price of this mod added to the G27 ends up at around $350, while the GT3 with the H-pattern shifter also comes in at around $350. So now that we have an even playing field. I start to see the extra bit of hassle that comes with the Fanatec wheels. Too many reports of faulty units for comfort, long response times with fanatec (understandable when taking the size of the company into account), and compatibility issues with some games.

So at this point the G27 is winning by a small margin. This doesn't last though when I start to think of the settings you can adjust on the fly on the GT3. The most important to me being the rotation degrees. I'll be playing GT5 alot so it's very convienent to be able to go to a smaller degree for cars like F1. My understanding is that with the G27 I can only change this on the PC? So in GT5 I'm stuck with full 900 degrees which isn't the best situation.

Finally, the GT3 clubsport edition isn't even on the site to pre-order yet so there's another factor of not knowing how long I'm going to have to wait.


So this is where I'm at now and I really have no idea which one to get. Is it worth it to wait for the GT3, brave through the potential problems, and get better settings customization? Or play it safe, and get the G27 with the brake mod (when the brake mod becomes available, stock replenishing).

The decision is driving me crazy so any help from you guys, or any things I may be missing that could effect my decision, would be great.

Thanks.
 
I have spoken to people that say the G27 pedals are not very good for GT5 in that they are not sensitive to the amount of braking applied.👎

If someone with more indepth knowledge could confirm this, I will be striking G27 off my list of next wheel.👍
 
I know that, that's why I mentioned I would be doing the Andy Pastore load cell brake mod. This adds a load cell to the G27's brake pedal which is the same thing the clubsport pedals use for the brake.
 
I don't have a lot of time with the G27 just had it briefly before returning it. But I've used the G25 extensively and those pedals are identical to the G27. Even with a load cell mod(which I haven't used) I can't see the G25/27 pedals being anywhere close to the ClubSports. The ClubSports build quality, rigidity, and adjustability even without the Tuning kit us unmatched. You can adjust the spring tension and pedal pressure on each pedal easily with the ClubSports which you can't do with the G25/27 not to mention pedal position(left,right, up, down).

Now I don't have the GT3 I have the new GT2 and I have to say that wheel is much much better than the G25 I had. And the GT3 is the same wheel with just PS3/PC only compatibility.

Thomas said in a post or his blog(can't remember which one) that the GT3 ClubSport Edition will be back soon just waiting on part availability.
 
greekbull
I don't have a lot of time with the G27 just had it briefly before returning it. But I've used the G25 extensively and those pedals are identical to the G27. Even with a load cell mod(which I haven't used) I can't see the G25/27 pedals being anywhere close to the ClubSports. The ClubSports build quality, rigidity, and adjustability even without the Tuning kit us unmatched. You can adjust the spring tension and pedal pressure on each pedal easily with the ClubSports which you can't do with the G25/27 not to mention pedal position(left,right, up, down).

Now I don't have the GT3 I have the new GT2 and I have to say that wheel is much much better than the G25 I had. And the GT3 is the same wheel with just PS3/PC only compatibility.

Thomas said in a post or his blog(can't remember which one) that the GT3 ClubSport Edition will be back soon just waiting on part availability.
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hey greekbull, did you get that tuning kit for the CS's? worth it?
 
I don't have the Tuning kit just a Color Kit but the stock CSPs are really adjustable as they are. I'll probably get a tuning kit eventually to have to more fun with adjusting my pedals though.
 
greekbull
I don't have the Tuning kit just a Color Kit but the stock CSPs are really adjustable as they are. I'll probably get a tuning kit eventually to have to more fun with adjusting my pedals though.
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good to know that you still can get in some tinkering without having to buy the kit. they just scream PLAY WITH ME.
 
There's no simple answer to your question. Both Logitech & Fanatec have their advantages & disadvantages as companies to deal with & both the G27 & the GT3 RS wheels have their pros & cons.

The ready availability of the Logitech products from a variety of sources, their long track record & their ability to replace faulty products stand in their favour. On the other hand Fanatec is more flexible in the options they offer - particularly the ability to upgrade the individual components. If & when Fanatec bring out their Clubsport shifter, it may move the balance undeniably in their favour, as they would then have a first class wheel, pedal & shifter set.

Both Fanatec & Logitech have had technical problems with their gear, but Logitech are able to offer easy remedies (within warranty), while Fanatec seem to be constantly struggling to deliver their original products in a timely fashion, let alone any replacement parts.
 
The tuning kit definitely isn't required, but I like having the stiffer springs. I think Delphic Reason recommend using one of the softer clutch springs for the throttle, and the stiffer clutch spring for the clutch to firm up both pedals. It works well. I moved the hinge on my brake down one hole to firm it up, but find it a bit too firm unless you're strictly driving race cars. I therefore use the short metal brake spacer, which is a nice combo. It feels appropriate for both production cars and thoroughbred race cars. The new metal bushings smooth things out a bit, and they're a nice bonus, but hardly necessary. The extra pedal is really handy though if you want to invert your pedals in a cockpit, GT style. The stock throttle pedal would then make an excellent dead pedal.

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hey greekbull, did you get that tuning kit for the CS's? worth it?
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