Any car faster than the NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car?

[HKS racer]

I have raced a couple of times with a Series One, gonna have to say that my normal NSX Type R blows it out of the competition, let alone the NSX-R
I'll still give it a try
Also the Spirra

The Spirra runs 6'42 at Nordschleife, could be 6'38 with a faster driver than me. Not the fastest car but not even slow.

I have raced a couple of times with a Series One

It's a go to car online at 550pp when NSX is banned.

I have the Amuse S2000 GT1 but it seems that it has a bit too much understeer to have a proper match with the NSX-R
But it can just be me haha
The FXX feels similar to the Amuse but I have it tuned at 650PP so maybe detuning it will give it a bit more balance

About the FXX I'm working on improving lift off oversteer, actually runs 6'33 Nordschleife at 565pp
The Amuse can be tuned taking advantage of front and rear downforce, try to put as much downforce on the front and as low as possible on the rear, without unsettling the car.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

It's a go to car online at 550pp when NSX is banned.

That car's slowly getting my interest...

About the FXX I'm working on improving lift off oversteer, actually runs 6'33 Nordschleife at 565pp
The Amuse can be tuned taking advantage of front and rear downforce, try to put as much downforce on the front and as low as possible on the rear, without unsettling the car.

Cool! Are you going to post your tune when you're done? Link me to your tune in case
I appreciate the advice Will try it out

 

[HKS racer]

That car's slowly getting my interest...

Cool! Are you going to post your tune when you're done? Link me to your tune in case
I appreciate the advice Will try it out

Yes I will, actually the car feels a tiny bit too hard on suspensions, but if I soften them I feel it can't reach the same speed on long turns, wich is the main point of this car. Let's see if I can improve it.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Yes I will, actually the car feels a tiny bit too hard on suspensions, but if I soften them I feel it can't reach the same speed on long turns, wich is the main point of this car. Let's see if I can improve it.

All of the cars I try (Emphasis on the italicized word) to tune always end up being that way
Good luck man, I'm rooting for you!

 

[Alpha Cipher]

So I've tried out the McLaren F1. This is what I have to say for it: This is the one.
Even with tuned-car-level aerodynamics (Ok, ok. I know I put a lot of emphasis on aerodynamics but hey how can you not ignore it if it increases your cornering speed while going faster?), the F1 feels just like the NSX, except that it's more obedient to corner exits (I'm using tunes though so maybe it's a different matter on stock suspension settings) and has a better powerband so I can have my revs low without bothering much about my acceleration (Don't ask why I sometimes have my revs low)

I also have the McLaren F1 Stealth Model but I'm convinced that my pre-1.09 tune (Couldn't find a decent updated tune so I settled with Praiano's) is not being of much help. Right now it has about the same performance as my other F1 albeit with slower top speed

As for the Amuse S2000, using HKS racer's advice, is much faster. However, I found that for me the fastest is the rear aerodynamics of the car being low to unsettle it just a little bit, making it tailhappy and overreactive to snap steering. I didn't mind though, because it becomes an NSX killer if I master the driving style needed for this car

The ZZII is a bit of a mixed opinion. Overall it's very fast, but in some sections of the Nurburgring where I test the cars, it gives off some understeer. You see, I tend to measure the car at the first sections if the track (The first corner which is low speed, the first sweeper, which is mid-speed, and the left-hander just before the "nose" of the 'Ring, which is high-speed) and base how fast I should be going at the rest of the 'Ring from it. At most cars this technique works but in the ZZII when I measured the three I thought it's faster than the NSX at low and mid-speed corners, with the NSX being faster at high-speed corners. But then at the second part of the 'Ring it understeered at a low-speed corner (I was going as fast as how I should be in the NSX) so it was really a surprise.
In the end I'm not sure how I'm going to rate this unpredictable car but I think that should I master this car it can be much faster than the NSX

 

[HKS racer]

Glad to hear you're having fun tuning these cars. The ZZII is 4WD therefore requires lots of testing on the best LSD configuration for your suspensions and driving style. You also need to balance traction between front and rear. Definitely not an easy car to tune if you are trying to push it to the limit. But there's potential.

McLaren F1 is an incredible car and needs no introduction, it's a masterpiece well simulated in this game. The Amuse S2000 require "heel and toe" technique, if your setup is tailhappy with low rear wing. Well if you don't have cluch like me, you can't heel and toe, but still you want to kick the throotle while down gearing to keep the car stable avoiding undesidered weight transfer.

Now let's see if I can finally manage an all-around tune for the FXX, there's potential but basically it's a disguised RACECAR engineered for flat tracks like Monza, Brands Hatch, Silverstone, Suzuka etc.
It CAN run the bumpy Nordschleife but we'll have to deal with slightly hard suspensions, it's just the way it is I guess.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Glad to hear you're having fun tuning these cars. The ZZII is 4WD therefore requires lots of testing on the best LSD configuration for your suspensions and driving style. You also need to balance traction between front and rear. Definitely not an easy car to tune if you are trying to push it to the limit. But there's potential.

McLaren F1 is an incredible car and needs no introduction, it's a masterpiece well simulated in this game. The Amuse S2000 require "heel and toe" technique, if your setup is tailhappy with low rear wing. Well if you don't have cluch like me, you can't heel and toe, but still you want to kick the throotle while down gearing to keep the car stable avoiding undesidered weight transfer.

Now let's see if I can finally manage an all-around tune for the FXX, there's potential but basically it's a disguised RACECAR engineered for flat tracks like Monza, Brands Hatch, Silverstone, Suzuka etc.
It CAN run the bumpy Nordschleife but we'll have to deal with slightly hard suspensions, it's just the way it is I guess.

The ZZII's tune wasn't really from me so I basically have no idea how it will react if I change the setup... Well, that's why there's trial and error

It actually made me think, "If the F1 is this fast, then am I handling the 12C wrong?"
Just the thought of that made me curl up on a corner and hate myself because I don't click with the 12C

I have the DFGT so no clutch for me but will kicking the throttle while shifting down really work? I mean, the downshifts are too fast especially if you have the triple-plate clutch and I think the game already kicks the throttle for you although it doesn't show up on the "gas meter" because it already matches the revs. But hey, trial and error

Personally, I prefer a Nurburgring-specific tune because that's where I race 99.99999% percent of the time but if there's no choice then I'll have an all-around tune. I like my tunes a bit on the hard side because I've grown accustomed to correcting my car on the 'Ring (Pretty normal for me actually after having to always correct my ZZS after having two wheels lift off the ground) and somehow it just feels faster than a softer suspension that I'm fully aware that will make me go faster. Take my opinions with a pinch of salt though, as this is only my preferences and not the community's

 

[HKS racer]

Here's my FXX. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/tunes/ferrari-fxx-07-rs-tires-565pp.1693/

Now the car feel soft and you can attack kerbs on corner entry and exit. I think it's better this way maybe a tiny bit slower on high speed turns but more conistent and easier to drive at the limit. I did again a 6'33 at the Nordschleife but wasn't a perfect lap, I guess there are still at least 3 seconds to be found from skilled drivers.

Let me know what you think.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Here's my FXX. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/tunes/ferrari-fxx-07-rs-tires-565pp.1693/

Now the car feel soft and you can attack kerbs on corner entry and exit. I think it's better this way maybe a tiny bit slower on high speed turns but more conistent and easier to drive at the limit. I did again a 6'33 at the Nordschleife but wasn't a perfect lap, I guess there are still at least 3 seconds to be found from skilled drivers.

Let me know what you think.

Switching to my FXX as we speak!
EDIT: Your tune sheet said 1152 kgs but when I put my ballast in it has 1162 kgs. Did I do something wrong?

 

[Alpha Cipher]

The FXX handles like a dream! It truly is a racecar on sports tires! Never mind the lack of aerodynamics; this thing still blows it in mid-speed corners and is only a minimal amount of speed slower in high-speed sections. Yet with all those, the car maintains its amazing stability. I'd take this over the NSX-R anyday

The Spirra is just, woah, just... woah. It completely exceeded my expectations. I thought that this box-shaped car has just above average performance. But no, it doesn't only have above-average performance; it's excellent! Up to mid-speed sections this car flies! Because of that though I forgot it has no aero to keep it down on high-speed sections so it does still fly (It a different sense now, though) in high-speed sections
It has above average performance on high-speed sections, and has excellent speed on lower-speed sections. However, it took me a while to adapt to this car because you really need to respect and treat it like a proper supercar. 0-top speed is done in no time (And it has a decent top speed, mind you) but at the cost of that if you get messy with the throttle a bit and bye bye asphalt, hello barrier.
But that just adds to the fun this car has

The Series One performs similarly with the Spirra but with more stability. It has a bit of a longer transmission setting so it bogs down on standing starts but boy this car's top speed is just awesome! Not to mention its looks
Can't find myself to believe that this is an American muscle car after experiencing its astounding performance (I'll get killed by guys who like muscle cars sooner or later but it's worth the joke :3)