Any tips for driving 4WD cars??

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I've been using the G27 for a few weeks now and it seem that I seem to be a weaker drive in 4WD cars. Any tips?

When corning, it seems like you have to brake before the turn, and let the car coast through the apex, because when I power out too early, it stops turning.

Do I have the right philosophy? Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
Stigsblkcousin
it seems like you have to brake before the turn
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You've just unlocked the super exclusive "secret technique" to go fast that used by all real race car professonals. Now you TOO can watch people crash on first corner and laugh at them.
 
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Stigsblkcousin
it seems like you have to brake before the turn!
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Seriously? :D

You could install a Torque Distributor, then distribute the torque 22/78 (front/rear) which will give the car a more rear wheel drive feel.
 
I agree they are a lot more difficult to get through turns quicker. If you are near the limit it's much harder to adjust your trajectory mid-corner in a 4WD car by using the accelerator than it is in FWD and RWD.

Certainly getting rid of the speed before the corner and a bit less trail-braking seems to help avoid the understeer that can otherwise result.
 
RikkiGT-R
Seriously? :D
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ROFL! Yall know what I mean. :dunce:

It seems like I have to break, totally get off the gas, coast through the turn, line up and then give it gas, whereas FR cars I can brake, give a little gas and then power out as I come out.
 
It would make it easier if you told us which car, some AWD cars have characteristics like MR and FF and when you mess with the torque split the handling can change drastically. Your approach is correct as you get more used to the car, you will find different ways to increase exit speed.
 
Stigsblkcousin
ROFL! Yall know what I mean. :dunce:

It seems like I have to break, totally get off the gas, coast through the turn, line up and then give it gas, whereas FR cars I can brake, give a little gas and then power out as I come out.
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You need to trail the brake and rotate the car, and this apply to ALL cars in any layout. Like Camaro said, use the diff and suspension to get the handling you need.

Anytime you "coast" you are losing time.
 
^Skyline Vspec 09

The reason why I made such a general post is because I was having the same problem with my EVO TME, but it seems like now I'm going to stick with the Skyline.
 
With an FR car losing traction is slower, they key to driving them fast is clean and smooth in, around and out of the bend.

With 4WD cars their natural tendency to grip to the road makes them difficult to drive round turns under power, they will just understeer, which means the key is to get the car pointing the right way and power out. This means unsettling the car into a bend to spin it slightly, then using the 4WD to get it to grip again out of the bend. You do this by breaking and/or lifting off the throttle while steering to get the car to slip and spin slightly then giving it the beans so that it regains traction out of the bend. Trying to drive neat and tidy will just make the car behave like a FWD vehicle unless the power is heavily biased to the rear.

A fast 4WD lap will look a lot less tidy than a fast RWD lap
 
BigYoSpeck
With an FR car losing traction is slower, they key to driving them fast is clean and smooth in, around and out of the bend.

With 4WD cars their natural tendency to grip to the road makes them difficult to drive round turns under power, they will just understeer, which means the key is to get the car pointing the right way and power out. This means unsettling the car into a bend to spin it slightly, then using the 4WD to get it to grip again out of the bend. You do this by breaking and/or lifting off the throttle while steering to get the car to slip and spin slightly then giving it the beans so that it regains traction out of the bend. Trying to drive neat and tidy will just make the car behave like a FWD vehicle unless the power is heavily biased to the rear.

A fast 4WD lap will look a lot less tidy than a fast RWD lap
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Thanks a lot!!👍
 
Set torque to 20% Front, 80% Rear. You can use the RA menu if you have a DFGT or a ds3 to set 4WDtq distribution during a race
 
This vid is a good example. Watch the break indicator and how it's being used during steering.

Getting the back end to flick out lets you lay down the power in the direction you want to travel and the drivetrain takes care of the grip.

 
Easy technique I use, brake before the turn in a straight line... with enough feel through the corner, slightly with confidence you can pull a bit of accel through the corner and plant it right!!! at the end, too early and on an angle and you will spin out. Practice makes perfect, Im basically very confident and enjoy driving my lambo's now 👍
 
BigYoSpeck
This vid is a good example. Watch the break indicator and how it's being used during steering.

Getting the back end to flick out lets you lay down the power in the direction you want to travel and the drivetrain takes care of the grip.

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A little improvement to that driving line and that would be golden.

And you don't have to drive that way necessarily. Trail braking is a good technique to use for 4WDs but getting them too sideways causes you to lose speed.
 
Another good trick from the real world is left foot braking. Gas and brake at the same time. You can use this to tighten your line and rotate the car mid-corner. Works better if you have a (realistic) heavy front brake bias.
 
"When corning, it seems like you have to brake before the turn"

That made my day!

As has been mentioned, buy the Torque Sensing Center Differential and set the balance to about 20/80 and it'll make the car feel more like a RWD, letting you get back on the gas a little sooner out of the corner.
 
Basically, I brake late and hard to toss the back end, then romp on it to launch the car in the right direction.

Fast, sort of...well not really. Fun, very much.

On a more practical note, as someone said, lower the front power bias and the front end will turn in easier, however, the ass end will become more unruly when trying to put the power down. For that, you could try using a diff to tighten up the rear, while opening up the front.

Typically, I'll use sway bars and power bias to get my AWD cars (Of which I use a lot) just right.
 
KidCastro
Easy technique I use, brake before the turn in a straight line... with enough feel through the corner, slightly with confidence you can pull a bit of accel through the corner and plant it right!!! at the end, too early and on an angle and you will spin out. Practice makes perfect, Im basically very confident and enjoy driving my lambo's now 👍
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Lambo's are very prone to spinning with no throttle. I find them most stable braking in a straight line, lifting of briefly to incur a small amount of spin, then planting the throttle and let the 4WD system do it's magic composing the car and slinging it out of the bend.

Under braking and lift off they are like a faster, heavier Elise and their traction under power is probably unmatched by the games other road cars. Their only pitfall is they are so unforgiving unlike the GTR which will only really come unstuck if you pendulum it's weight side to side.
 
You mean the GT-R Vpec '09? In stock form this car is very fast, thing is you have to deal with the cars' base characteristics. Once you get used to that, you are pretty much on your way to mastering that car. I usually do not try to change a cars' natural balance because it's usually how the car itself is but you can tweak it to your liking.
 

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