i still dont see why you guys dont like the e brake, is it because its the "n00b" way of initiating(sp?) a drift? because it dosent require so much technique? i see nothing wrong with the e brake, hell, i use it A LOT. i know none of you have been able to see my skills thanks to my capture cards not working, but i could say, im a pretty good drifter. the e brake has so many uses. i like to use it to start the drift 150m away, or to correct my mistakes or from understeer. IMO anyone who thinks that e braking is for n00bs, is the real n00b...but to each his own right?