Area 51

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GTChamp2003
btw.
I'm not too fond of dogs or puppies(dog puppies that is),so don't think bad of me just because of that.
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What the ****? You hate puppies? You have no soul. :grumpy:
 
daan
All they have to do is rename it to "Area 404" and then no-one could find it.
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:lol: Oh man, that just struck me as hilarious.

I'm sure there is an Area 51, but why people are regarding it as secret is a mystery to me. The government basically told evryone what they were doing to defeat the accusations of aliens.
 
I remember when the F-117 was testing out the abilities of other counties radar systems, and was spotted in Belgium by a couple of people. Since the government couldn't see it on radar, they said it wasn't real. Then, when photos came forward, the Belgian and French governments actually thought they were UFOs. They actually spent millions to start "UFO Defensive Operations." :lol:
 
Famine

As an aside, what is it about conspiracy theories that makes us all so susceptible to them? I mean, what's more likely? The USAF have a testing facility in the middle of nowhere for next-generation planes (F117A, then F19, then F22), or it's some wonderful, hyper-secret place (which everyone knows about) where they cut up aliens and reverse engineer space ships? Remember Occam's Razor (to paraphrase - "Do not needlessly multiply entities"). And even if they DID cut up aliens and reverse engineer space ships, would they do it somewhere that everyone is focussed upon?
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You should have employed Ockham's Razor in your definition of "Occam"'s Razor. (I had always been taught to spell it "Achem", but upon further investigation the correct spellings are either Ockham or Occam. Probably due to William of Ockham's excommunication from the Catholic church and exile to Germany; "Achem" being a German spelling and all... Anyway, back to my original point...)

"Do not endlessly multiply entities"?

Try "the simplest explanation is usually the correct one" on for size. :D
 
isn't area fifty one(that doesnt kill a puppy does it??) just where some spacecraft crashed and the government was the first people to jump on the area. And the first word that came out was it was a UFO. Then they plan on just saying it was some airplane that crashed and their bodies got deformed in the crash.

I think it is just so secret because it is so hard to find(without a plane). It's probably like 400 miles of straight road with no intersections during that 400 miles(this should and probably does cause people to turn around after a short time)
 
Maybe Speed Channel will air exclusive live coverage of those events, wellryn :) (j/k).

Gamers love to refer to Area 51 as being the hit shooting game that had you go through Area 51 as a member of the S.T.A.R.R. team fighting against aliens and mutated humans. I just know it as a game made from a full-motion video. While these "I, Robot" commercials are being overkilled while I'm watching the "5th Gear" rerun from earlier tonight, I don't believe in any aliens at this Area 51. As deserted as Nevada can be (all you ever hear of is Reno and Vegas), some also know it for the Area 51 facility there. And if you think there is no such thing as Area 51, your call. I'm on the neutral.
 
Well if they wanted no-one to find Area 51 they should have built it next to the weapons of mass destruction.

I don't know what I believe about Area 51, I should do some research so I have some material to base an opinion on. But from what I already know I believe it's just a testing facility for advanced aircraft.

Blake
 
Firebird
You should have employed Ockham's Razor in your definition of "Occam"'s Razor. (I had always been taught to spell it "Achem", but upon further investigation the correct spellings are either Ockham or Occam. Probably due to William of Ockham's excommunication from the Catholic church and exile to Germany; "Achem" being a German spelling and all... Anyway, back to my original point...)

"Do not endlessly multiply entities"?

Try "the simplest explanation is usually the correct one" on for size. :D
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Duh! I DID say "to paraphrase" - and then you misquoted me. It's "Do not needlessly multiply entities", one of the accepted shorthands of Occam's Razor.

And I quote:
"Because Occam's razor is sometimes called the principle of simplicity some creationists have argued that Occam's razor can be used to support creationism over evolution. After all, having God create everything is much simpler than evolution, which is a very complex mechanism. But Occam's razor does not say that the more simple a hypothesis, the better."

Occam's Razor is "Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" - or "plurality should not be posited without necessity" (roughly translated into layman's terms, "Do not needlessly multiply entities".

Q.E.D.
 
This William of ockham dude must have had some really good drugs and a lot of time on his hands..but thats only logical.
 
No - the StarGate is in Cheyenne Mountain, although the NID stored the second Antarctic StarGate in... the aforementioned dog-death place in Nevada...
 
Hey famine Occams Razor is a weapon in Diablo ! See that you dont know nothin ! Bwaaaaaahahahahaahaha !
 
Famine
There is no such thing as "Area 51". Fact.

Besides which, if it was SO top secret that everyone on Earth knows about it, knows roughly where it is and knows what goes on there, what the hell is the point of it?

It's just a joke at the expense of conspiracy theorists - make everyone think there's a super-secret research facility into bug-eyed monsters and their downed spacecraft ('cos everyone knows Roswell was real. Right?) and then tell them exactly where it is so that they all hoard round the facility - hell, even buy several miles of chainlink fence, employ a few armed guards and a couple of F/A-18s to make it look more authentic - and don't go looking anywhere else where interesting things actually DO go on.

Besides, where's Area 50? And wouldn't you be more interested in what goes on in Area 52 - after all, they must have built THAT facility later, eh? Eh?
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Area 51 and all the alien stories are Guvernment properganda to cover up the truth which is that they have been developing space aged flying techniques and technologies since the 30's or 40's, They'v built "flying saucers" wey back when and by all accounts have never stopped developing so all the sightings and rumours all arise from the same thing which is "secerate" technology and research
 
MADDOG-99
Area 51 and all the alien stories are Guvernment properganda to cover up the truth which is that they have been developing space aged flying techniques and technologies since the 30's or 40's, They'v built "flying saucers" wey back when and by all accounts have never stopped developing so all the sightings and rumours all arise from the same thing which is "secerate" technology and research
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See?

Just sit there and think about what you've just said... They have this place where they make spaceships, which they tell everyone about in order to cover it up? What part of that makes sense?

Do you have any evidence at all to back up your assertion that "the Government" have been building "space-age" aircraft since the 1930s, or are you just buying into the conspiracy theory bull****?

How can you reconcile this 70 year space programme with the facts that the USA were beaten into orbit by the Russians, then beaten again putting a living being up there and then beaten yet again in putting a human up there and had to rush Sheppard up there for a sub-orbital flight to prove they weren't that far behind? And then the next happy fact that we've lost 5 out of the last 6 probes to Mars. And let's not forget the 16 people we lost going up (Challenger) and coming down (Columbia). Don't you think we'd have learned a little about "space-age flying techniques" in the last 70 years - when in fact our most advanced space craft cannot actually fly and blows up every 14 years?

Or is all of this just more "guvernment properganda" (sic)?
 
JohnBM01
Anyhow, Area 51. Reply.
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I'd just like to put my 2 cents in by saying: I don't give a damn about what's going on in Area 51; it's just another place in this world that not everyone's allowed to enter. It's not as if it's the only place on Earth that has restricted access.

Face it, you aren't allowed to just enter any old place, at any time, without credentials. You can't enter the boardroom of large company unannounced. You can't just walk up to some random stranger's house and allow yourself in. You can't barge right into an private property, even if it's under the guise of publicly-funded property like a military base or a police station. What's the surprise in this to some people?

So what's the big deal? Even if there were a cover up, how is that affecting your miserable little life? Does anyone really believe The Government is holding back on a big secret that will make you live the life you've always dreamed of?
 
I think the government is hiding a secrete hair growth formula from us because it wants us all to buy rogaine or die from terminal baldness. but rogaine only makes the hair in my ears grow , so I guess I'm screwed unless I can get into the area 51 and steal the secret formula 51 . Its an omen that I may succeed because this is post 51.
 
Here is what I saw on SciFi-

Nothing to do with aliens is at Area 51, it is at another "secret" government base called S4, which is not too far from Area 51. Alien spacecraft fly using element 115, which is amplified to create an antigravity. You can search for more info if you dare (the government might come after you).

My mind is filled with crap from staying up late watching TV. :rolleyes:
 
GTChamp2003
All i know are rumours of an underground facillity where secret experiments are performed.
It's said that the technology in that place is 20 years ahead of what we have now in terms of aviation and space flight.I'm sure there is a lot more going on down there then we all know.Who knows maybe they do have alien organisms there.No way to prove it though.
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Never heard of an "Area 51 ".Investigation coming up :)
 
Famine, you think we have cleared Battersy (sp?) Dogs home yet?

In regard to Famine's (much) earlier comments about the sattelite pictures taking shots of any new aircraft, I'd like to point out that the F-117 was mainly tested at night so as to reduce the chance of being seen by Russian satellites.
 
ExigeExcel
Famine, you think we have cleared Battersy (sp?) Dogs home yet?
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"They" don't get their dogs from Battersea. "They" kidnap them in the middle of the night from disabled children..!
 
Famine
See?
Do you have any evidence at all to back up your assertion that "the Government" have been building "space-age" aircraft since the 1930s, or are you just buying into the conspiracy theory bull****?
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Do you have any evidence that they haven't though? ;)
 

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