Armand's Tuning Shed

Discussion in 'GTS Tuning' started by Armand Manga, Dec 25, 2017.

  1. Armand Manga

    Armand Manga

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    What's going on guys, your man Armand in the house.
    I've been playing racing games on and off over the course of 9 years. (Gran Turismo 1 and 4/ Forza 3, 4, and 6)
    This is my first Gran Turismo in a minute but i've been getting into circuit tuning seriously since Forza 4.
    Then I got really good on 6 where i learned from one of the fastest guys on there. Next thing i knew people started PMing me requesting competitive/accessible circuit tunes ;) Some of you already have PMed me on here so i'll go ahead and post those tunes.
    For a big game, there are a lot of fast guys out there that keep their tunes to themselves... i'm here to share what i know with some of you.
    I'm currently working on Gr4, Gr3, and N class cars so let the requests come.


    -Gr2

    HONDA RAYBRIG NSX Concept-GT '16
    NOTES: This car is the most requested out of all the Gr2 cars that came out, so it's only fair that i give it my own little spin. The car is very well balanced stock but pushes more than it should mid corner. So i toned the roll bars down which also help with tight transitions and low speed grip. While i was at it brought the LSD accel setting down just a little bit to compensate for the added grip to the front... You don't want to be wiping this expensive baby out ;)

    TIRES: Race Hard
    HEIGHT: 1.97/2.17
    HZ: 4.00/4.00
    ROLL BARS: 4/4
    COMPRESSION: 55/55
    REBOUND: 84/85
    CAMBER: 3.0/2.0
    TOE: 0.15/0.30
    AERO: 730/1100
    DIFFERENTIAL: 10/30/20
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTO SET: 180
    FINAL GEAR: 3.359
    1ST: 2.980 (75)
    2ND: 2.420 (92)
    3RD: 1.930 (115)
    4TH: 1.636 (136)
    5TH: 1.390 (160)
    6TH: 1.230 (191)


    -N300


    TOYOTA Supra RZ '97
    NOTES: Awesome car! The car has such a fat mid-top end power band i didn't need to shorten gears or short shift way before the redline.


    TIRES: SPORTS SOFT
    HEIGHT: 3.54/3.54
    HZ: 2.15/2.00
    ROLL BARS: 7/4
    COMPRESSION: 64/63
    REBOUND: 94/93
    CAMBER: 1.4/1.5
    TOE: 0.00/0.40
    DIFFERENTIAL: 23/20/10
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTO SET: 186
    FINAL GEAR: 3.550
    1ST: 2.710 (52)
    2ND: 1.795 (79)
    3RD: 1.350 (106)
    4TH: 1.055 (135)
    5TH: 0.890 (160)
    6TH: 0.770 (190)


    -N400

    BMW M4 Coupe '14
    NOTES:
    This car was a pain in the butt to tune for me. Stock tune was well balanced on corner entry, and mid. However the back end would kick out violently on tight corner exit (TCS in this class is usually set at 0). The new diff settings fixes most of that.

    TIRES: SPORTS SOFT
    HEIGHT: 4.13/4.13
    HZ: 2.15/1.87
    ROLL BARS: 6/6
    COMPRESSION: 62/62
    REBOUND: 95/93
    CAMBER: 1.3/1.5
    TOE: 0.00/0.20
    DIFFERENTIAL: 18/19/20 (Increace ACCEL if you're using Race tires)
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTOSET: 211MPH
    FINAL GEAR: 3.700
    1ST: 3.657 (44)
    2ND: 2.226 (73)
    3RD: 1.577 (103)
    4TH: 1.240 (130)
    5TH: 1.047 (155)
    6TH: 0.940 (173)
    7TH: 0.770 (222)

    DODGE Challenger R/T '70
    NOTES:
    This was hands down up there with one of hardest cars i've had to tune. You have a heavy car, heavy on the nose which skinny tires, which then has a very narrow powerband. It took me a while to gather info on these cars but they have 57-58% of their weight up front. Couple that with the game's stock 50/50 spring setting, any car will oversteer because the front springs are actually soft in relation to the rear. so i cranked the front springs as high as i felt was necessary. I also cranked up the rear toe and DECEL LSD mainly to help the back end stay planted which going through S turns and lifting the gas. Since the car has skinny tires you still want to be smooth with your inputs. There is no tune on here that will help you with that, period. Finally i tuned the car on stock power/weight settings. So if you drop the weight i recommend softening the springs and roll bars. Leave everything else alone ;)

    TIRES: Sports Soft
    HEIGHT: 3.94/3.94
    HZ: 2.10/1.50
    ROLL BARS: 10/2
    COMPRESSION: 63/61
    REBOUND: 94/91
    CAMBER: 1.2/1.5
    TOE: 0.00/in 1.00
    DIFFERENTIAL: 60/15/60
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTOSET: 186MPH
    FINAL GEAR: 3.900
    1ST: 1.629 (60)
    2ND: 1.185 (82)
    3RD: 0.913 (107)
    4TH: 0.744 (131)
    5TH: 0.637 (168)


    LAMBORGHINI Countach LP400 '74
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    I didn't quite know what to expect from this car. I personally think the style is questionable, I never looked at it in any game. The handling left a lot to be desired. I made the mistake of attempting to tune it after a long stressful day at work yesterday. Its SUPER skinny 205 tires all round, no downforce, mixed with the mid engine layout caused a lot of frustration. The car slides all over the place. If you went too far with stiffening the front, it would quickly understeer in tight corners. It got to the point where i thought you couldn't drive fast with it unless you had race tires. I wanted to sell this 1.8million purchase asap lol. Anyways i today i managed to make the Countach drive properly. It still rotates, no way of getting around that with skinny tires and the engine at the back. Only it does it A LOT slower which was the goal. If we had the the Countach LP400S with its 345 wide rear tires i wouldn't be pulling my hair. Despite all that..... GAWD it sounds good ;)

    TIRES: Sports Soft
    HEIGHT: 3.03/3.82in
    HZ: 2.10/1.95
    ROLL BARS: 8/4
    COMPRESSION: 62/62
    REBOUND: 95/92
    CAMBER: 1.0/1.6
    TOE: 0.00/in0.40
    DIFFERENTIAL: 27/16/50
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTO SET: 174MPH
    FINAL GEAR: 4.091
    1ST: 2.400 (64)
    2ND: 1.660 (93)
    3RD: 1.315 (117)
    4TH: 1.080 (142)
    5TH: 0.840 (190)


    -N600

    CHEVROLET Nova '67 (SEMA)
    NOTES:
    This car is fast as hell. I got a few podium races in BOP (i usually race BOP) lobbies on tracks like Kyoto and Tokyo. I was going up against huracans, vipers, etc... The car leans a little but it's ok. It doesn't have the downforce for tight suspension. So it makes up wide tires that grip well on low-medium speed corners. The diff was tricky to set up but after testing the car on several tracks for almost an hour i'm happy with how predictably she rockets out of corners. You can apply these same settings to N500.

    TIRES: RACE HARD
    HEIGHT: 2.36/2.36in
    HZ: 2.00/1.90
    ROLL BARS: 6/4
    COMPRESSION: 60/60
    REBOUND: 92/91
    CAMBER: 1.2/1.5
    TOE: out 0.20/in 0.40
    DIFFERENTIAL: 20/12/10
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTOSET: 230MPH
    FINAL GEAR: 4700
    1ST: 1.900 (59)
    2ND: 1.245 (90)
    3RD: 0.973 (116)
    4TH: 0.833 (135)
    5TH: 0.695 (162)
    6TH: 0.590 (196)

    NISSAN GT-R NISMO '17
    NOTES: Right out the gate this car drives exactly the same as the Premium GTR. I would have though PD would implement more downforce on the car hence the reason for the aero. These were kind of disappointing for me but hey what can you do ;P This time around I used the suspension tune i created for the Premium edition as a baseline and improved the car mainly for the tight cornered tracks. I spent over 30 minutes on Suzuka experimenting with a variation of that same setup and i'm very happy with the end result. On stock power/weight and Sports Softs i managed a respectable 1:00.019 a few days ago. I just hopped on to play with it as i'm typing this text out and pulled a 1:00.289 on the first lap alone lol. This is just a very consistent and friendly tune. You can apply these settings on the standard GTR.

    TIRES: Sports Soft
    HEIGHT: 3.35/3.35
    HZ: 2.35/2.05
    ROLL BARS: 4/4
    COMPRESSION: 64/64
    REBOUND: 93/90
    CAMBER: 2.4/2.2
    TOE: Out 0.15/ In 0.05
    DIFFERENTIAL: FRONT: 7/20/5 REAR: 5/35/9
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTOSET: 199MPH
    FINAL GEAR: 4.198
    1ST: 2.570 (53)
    2ND: 1.895 (73)
    3RD: 1.355 (102)
    4TH: 1.095 (126)
    5TH: 0.920 (150)
    6TH: 0.780 (190)

    NISSAN GT-R Premium edition '17
    NOTES:
    This car is easily the best car i've ever tuned to date IMO. This is mostly because over time i've learned to familiarize myself with which tracks i'm going to use to benchmark my cars in certain areas. Whether it's racing my ghost down Suzuka Circuit East Course from a 40mph roll and adjusting the individual gears to get the quickest acceleration and finding out the optimum shift points... Or hitting up Kyoto Miyabi's long winding curves side by side with my quickest lap's ghost to see around where my camber settings needs to be in comparison (Camber makes a huuuuuge difference). Shoot, i may have to revisit some of the tunes i already posted on here lol ;P
    Anyways I always start messing with the springs > roll bars > shocks because this is what's going to primarily make the car behave the way i want it to. In the case of the GT-R I was getting a lot of instability especially when braking into a corner. Then mid corner it would just quickly understeer. To top that off i didn't like the soft vague feeling the front had with it being nose heavy. So i cranked up the front spring rate and compression in relation to the rear. With all the little additional tweaks that i made i now have a car that sharp, quickly changes direction while keeping the rear end planted... Perfect for hitting those apexes consistently followed by colossal grip on exit. Have fun!

    TIRES: Sports Soft
    HEIGHT: 3.35/3.35
    HZ: 2.25/2.05
    ROLL BARS: 6/5
    COMPRESSION: 63/62
    REBOUND: 92/92
    CAMBER: 2.4/2.4
    TOE: Out 0.10/ In 0.15
    DIFFERENTIAL: FRONT: 7/18/5 REAR: 15/35/9
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTOSET: 199MPH
    FINAL GEAR: 4.198
    1ST: 2.600 (53)
    2ND: 1.755 (78)
    3RD: 1.335 (103)
    4TH: 1.097 (126)
    5TH: 0.910 (152)
    6TH: 0.780 (190)




    -N700

    LAMBORGHINI Veneno '14
    NOTES:
    Awesome angry machine that LOVES being revved all the way to redline. It was easier to drive than the LaFerrari. Its stock, flexible 4wd system allowed just the right amount of slip at low speed. The only thing i did was crank up the front LSD's Initial Torque because i didn't like the inside wheels slipping so soon around a corner. You can sense the front wheels fighting with the low diff sensitivity (might as well have no LSD at the front). Next thing I fixed was the same high speed understeer that plagues the stock LaFerrari due to the high rear downforce. I cranked the front toe out a little and stiffened the rear. The Veneno is now more of a neutral, high grip monster that sounds amazeball around the circuit. Have fun!

    TIRES: RACE HARD
    HEIGHT: 2.95/3.15
    HZ: 2.05/2.28in
    ROLL BARS: 7/4
    COMPRESSION: 55/55
    REBOUND: 85/87
    CAMBER: 1.3/1.6
    TOE: out 0.10/in 0.40
    DIFFERENTIAL: FRONT: 30/20/5 REAR: 7/30/10
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTOSET: 236MPH
    FINAL GEAR: 3.540
    1ST: 3.020 (60)
    2ND: 2.260 (88)
    3RD: 1.700 (117)
    4TH: 1.400 (142)
    5TH: 1.138 (175)
    6TH: 0.972 (206)
    7TH: 0.874 (242)


    -N800

    LAMBORGHINI Veneno '14
    NOTES:
    Essentially the same as N700. However i made 1st gear taller to compliment the higher power, the car actually launches faster this way. I also increased camber and toe little to compensate for the higher speeds the N800 Veneno is going to be reaching. When you accelerate with the additional power the car squats harder, which means the front does not have as much grip (aka understeer). I actually feel the difference with the small adjustments.

    TIRES: RACE HARD
    HEIGHT: 2.95/3.15
    HZ: 2.05/2.28in
    ROLL BARS: 7/4
    COMPRESSION: 55/55
    REBOUND: 85/87
    CAMBER: 1.4/1.6
    TOE: out 0.15/in 0.40
    DIFFERENTIAL: FRONT: 30/20/5 REAR: 7/30/10
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTOSET: 236MPH
    FINAL GEAR: 3.540
    1ST: 3.020 (66)
    2ND: 2.260 (88)
    3RD: 1.700 (117)
    4TH: 1.400 (142)
    5TH: 1.138 (175)
    6TH: 0.972 (206)
    7TH: 0.874 (242)


    -N1000

    Ferrari LaFerrari '13
    NOTES: This is a fun car with ridiculous acceleration once it hooks up. It's a road car so it does not have GR4 levels of downforce (It should be a different story with the FXX IF we ever get it though). With that said i made my own tweaks to make the car better than what PD gave us. First issue i wanted to tackle was the high speed understeer (+100mph). The car creates a lot of rear downforce at speed which is great for stability but the understeer was too much for me. So i dropped the front ride height and softened the front springs/roll bars. But not too soft that I spin out while braking/low speed cornering or that the front axle becomes unresponsive. My next issue was the way the car put its power down on exit (I have TCS at 0). The new diff settings resulted in the best compromise between traction out the corner and control for me. I managed a respectable 1:36.863 around Dragon Trail on RH tires/stock power/stock weight... Good luck!

    TIRES: RACE HARD
    HEIGHT: 3.35/4.69in
    HZ: 2.15/2.30
    ROLL BARS: 6/4
    COMPRESSION: 53/53
    REBOUND: 87/88
    CAMBER: 0.9/1.4
    TOE: 0.00/0.30
    DIFFERENTIAL: 20/18/7
    TRANSMISSION
    AUTOSET: 249MPH
    FINAL GEAR: 4.600
    1ST: 2.710 (62)
    2ND: 1.890 (89)
    3RD: 1.430 (117)
    4TH: 1.160 (145)
    5TH: 0.966 (174)
    6TH: 0.830 (203)
    7TH: 0.710 (256)

     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2018
  2. Armand Manga

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    12/28/2017 Update: Reworked the suspension and differential settings on the N400 M4. The front end is more responsive and traction loss more progressive on all four tires. It still requires delicate throttle control in comparison to the Lexus RC-F with a MUCH friendlier power band. The M4 makes max power all the way from 5700-7400RPM which essentially makes it fast within its respective class lol.
     
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  3. ejf_eire

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    HEIGHT: 4.13/4.13, apologies, but is there a way to convert that to 'mm' that my version lists?
     
  4. fordlaser

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    105mm/ 105mm.
     
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  5. Armand Manga

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    Yeah this.
    You can raise the car height a little bit for tracks with really big curbs such as the last chicanes on Dragon Trail.
     
  6. ejf_eire

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    Many thanks, I didn't know it was in inch's until after I posted, I just used the normal conversion method.
    Great Tune, Well done.
     
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  7. Armand Manga

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    I'm glad to hear that it worked out for you ;) I'll be releasing a few more tunes over the next couple of days, i've been REALLY busy with work lol.

    I just added some positive toe to the rear. I felt the car could use some stability while transitioning through esses.
     
  8. Armand Manga

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    LaFerrari tune added!

    Question for you other guys that tune on here, is it just me or do the cars increase negative camber when you lower them? (just like in real life)
    I notice you lose out on acceleration on the meter to the bottom left on the tuning page. I'm thinking this could be attributed to that?
     
  9. Hotspace 5150

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    wow.. now there is tuning setup.. wheel or DS4 setup ?
     
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  10. Armand Manga

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    DS4 my man
     
  11. Armand Manga

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    Chevy Nova tune is up!
     
  12. Happyjuice

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    Wicked! Going to try this today!
     
  13. Armand Manga

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    Alright the N400 Countach tune is up!
    I have the N500 tune for it coming up tomorrow, along with a N700/N800 Veneno and N600/N700 Huracan.

    So far i'm receiving great feedback with my tunes. I'm considering adding more content and tricks like:
    - How to launch each car for the quickest acceleration off the line, based on the tired equipped
    - Where each car's optimum shift point is for the quickest acceleration (Not all cars like being revved all the way to the top, so i tune gear ratios accordingly as well)
    - 0-60mph, 0-100mph and 40-110mph times for each car. I race my cars against a ghost car from my previous lap down a short straight to get the best out of the cars.

    Is this something that would be helpful for you guys?
     
  14. Turbo Racer 48

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    Yes that would be great information. Great thread you have going already - very informative.
     
  15. Lloyd

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    Cant wait for the veneo tune i am struggling with this car
     
  16. Armand Manga

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    Veneno tunes are up!
    Huracan and Enzo are coming
     
  17. Armand Manga

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    I'll get to it soon :tup:
     
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    Daaaammmn.... so i've been working 70hrs a week + 6hrs of school so i don't even have the time/energy to power my PS4 ;P

    Anyways an N300 Supra tune is up, with more powerful variants coming.
     
  19. Armand Manga

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    So i've been getting some PM's regarding people getting different transmission values than what I posted.
    I think some of you are adjusting the individual gears first. If i remember correctly that will throw the values off. Just reset the transmission settings to default then adjust the top speed --> final gear --> individual gears.

    With that said an N400 Challenger R/T tune is up!
     
  20. Armand Manga

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    Stock GT-R tune is up!
     
  21. Armand Manga

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    Gr2 Honda NSX and NISMO GTR tunes are up!
     
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  22. garystevens64

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    I was wondering how often or if you do any new tunes? I've really enjoyed using the one's I have.

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