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Ford Australia has unveiled the first production prototype of a new Australian-designed and built all-wheel-drive vehicle due to hit the streets next year.

The new Ford Territory is designed to adapt to the changing needs of Australian motorists, offering car-like styling and vehicle dynamics with the versatility of a four-wheel-drive or people mover.

The Territory will go on sale in the second quarter of next year.

Ford Australia President Geoff Polites said Territory continues a tradition of innovation and ingenuity for the Blue Oval in Australia.

“Today is a huge milestone in the 77-year history of Ford in this country. Territory will redefine the local automotive market,” Mr Polites said.

“It represents an exciting new phase of our development as a vehicle designer and manufacturer. And it continues a tradition that began for us with the launch of the world’s first coupe utility in 1934 and the introduction of the long wheelbase concept in 1967,” he said.

The Ford Territory will be built on the same assembly line as Falcon and was conceived and designed from scratch in Ford’s Broadmeadows design studio.

It shares a number of components with the award-winning Falcon, but has a completely different underbody structure, unique front suspension and an all-wheel-drive system that incorporates global technology.

Territory will share some Falcon engines and transmissions and will have an adaptation of the Falcon’s award-winning Control Blade IRS.

Mr Polites said Territory would carve out its own niche in the local market.

“We’ve done more than three years of extensive market research into this vehicle and established a growing need for a vehicle that combines the best characteristics of family sedans, all-terrain wagons and people-movers.

“We talked to large car owners, owners of large 4WDs and owners of people movers and we found that although each of these owners was reasonably happy with their current vehicles, they could all identify areas where their vehicle didn't match their needs and wants.

“Large car buyers liked their car’s performance and handling, but wished it could do more in terms of adapting to their lifestyle.

“4WD owners loved the command driving position and the versatility but wished it handled like a car. They also admitted that they didn’t need the full-scale off-road ability and weren’t happy with the upfront and operating costs.

“And some told us that while they enjoyed the freedom and ruggedness of their 4WD, they didn’t enjoy driving it to work in traffic every day.

“People mover drivers grudgingly admitted that their car was very practical, but they hated being the bus driver.

“So there was basically an unmet need out there for something that offered the handling and style of a car with the versatility of a 4WD or people mover,” he said.

Apart from consumer demand, the business case for the new Ford Territory was also sound.

“Territory allows us to make better use of our plant capacity and will also attract new people to the Blue Oval brand – specifically younger buyers and women,” he said.

“And importantly for Australia, we estimate that 60 per cent of Territory sales will substitute for current imports. So even without an export program, this vehicle will produce trade and balance of payments benefits for Australia,” Mr Polites said.

Territory will be equally at home in either urban or outdoor environments.

Its flexible interior will offer functionality and practicality without sacrificing style and aesthetics.

“We see the main target market for this vehicle as the established family. Buyers in this market want a vehicle that is practical and versatile, with an interior package that accommodates an active lifestyle. But they also want something stylish and fun to drive,” Mr Polites said.

There will also be demand from young professional couples, as well as older couples without children and empty nesters.

“All three markets are looking for style and quality, as well as the confidence of all-wheel-drive and a command driving position,” he said.

In terms of price, the vehicle will provide a logical alternative to traditional cars and 4WDs, offering the right combination of features at an attainable price.

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Yeah Ive seen that:yuck:

Apparantly, its the same size as the Nissan Patrol and Toyota Land Cruiser.

IMO it looks like a cross between the old CRV and Ford Escape at the front
 
I think it relates to an Explorer...i read half an article about it in the paper, but i think they should try to make a 4wd sedan/ute, like Holden are attempting.
 
Do you mean the Cross8?
If so, I agree. The market doesnt need another one of these SUVs. Where the Cross8 is more like a much more powerful Holden Rodeo workhorse.
 
Yeh, i meant the Cross8, and the SSX is another hot looker.
 
You've got to remember this thing will probably go to market for less than $50k - it will be probably more Pajero size than Landcruiser and Patrol - but it will be a lot lighter, run Falcon mechanicals (and having driven a BA in the past week I have to say I'm impressed) and drive much like a Falcon. Think a Ford Explorer that's properly built and handles.
 
I was told it is around the same size as the Patrol. Well, it will be one of the most powerful SUVs in its class-182kw(???) just 3kw short of Patrols 4.8
 
Mmm...

Looking at the stats, a Falcon wagon is in fact closer in size to a Patrol than a Pajero (difference between the Patrol and the Pajero is length), so you're probably right.

Great - another huge friggin thing I can't see over or around in traffic...
 
Originally posted by Hell Patrol
oh god what the hell is that?.
Let me think "ford explorer"!

This will be much more car-like. It's based around the Australian Falcon, a medium-large (in US terms - here it's a large car) 4.0 six cylinder (with V8 options) rear drive sedan - remember the Tickford from GT3 - that's the racing version of the previous model.

The Explorer is sold here but hasn't done well, because compared to its equivalent Japanese competition it's, well, crap, and that part of the market has been undermined by the soft-roader brigade.

M5 - note that one you're seeing was a preview version for a motorshow. We haven't even seen the interior yet.
 
Originally posted by vat_man

M5 - note that one you're seeing was a preview version for a motorshow. We haven't even seen the interior yet.

Yeah - but making it in orange just begs for adverse reactions. I like it but orange doesn't work with those wheels.
 
Why don't all these people just buy station/estate wagons and get the heck over it already?

My manhood is secure enough that I don't have to pay 20% extra just so I can say I drive an SUV.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
Why don't all these people just buy station/estate wagons and get the heck over it already?

My manhood is secure enough that I don't have to pay 20% extra just so I can say I drive an SUV.

Don't look at me - I drive a medium size four cylinder Japanese sedan (ok, it's AWD, but it has side skirts and a wing).

I don't get the SUV thing either. Why you'd deliberately buy something that is more expensive to run and has poorer grip and handling is totally beyond me.
 
Take a look at choices. There aren't more than six station wagons on the market, compared to close to 50 SUV's. I'd much rather have a wagon, but none appeal to me as the Volvo XC90 does, which is why I've put in an order for one.
 
Your market must suck. Just off the top of my head, in Australia you can get:
Audi A4 Avant
Audi A6 Avant
Alfa Romeo 156 wagon
BMW 3 series wagon
BMW 5 series wagon
Ford Falcon wagon
Holden Commodore wagon
Mercedes Benz C-Class wagon
Mercedes Benz E-Class wagon (not in the new model yet)
Mitsubishi Magna wagon
Rover 75 wagon
Saab 9-5 wagon
Toyota Corolla wagon (they push it as a people-mover, but kids, it's a wagon).
Suzuki Baleno wagon
Countless Volvo wagons

I'm sure I missed a couple.
 
Originally posted by vat_man


I don't get the SUV thing either. Why you'd deliberately buy something that is more expensive to run and has poorer grip and handling is totally beyond me.

If I needed a van or MPV, Id go straight for the 4.8 Patrol and forget about handling. Use it for straight line :lol: performance (10 secs inst bad for 0-100 and I bet it sound grouse) and off road. Someone who would rather a van, MPV or SUV over a panel van/ute or wagon obviously doesnt give a **** about road handling

And N.A. car range looks like ****
 
SUV's definitely suck. After looking around, I'd say that the wagon I'd buy (if I needed to) I'd probably go for one of the Bimmers.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
Take a look at choices. There aren't more than six station wagons on the market, compared to close to 50 SUV's. I'd much rather have a wagon, but none appeal to me as the Volvo XC90 does, which is why I've put in an order for one.
But... as has been duly noted millions of times, companies build what they think will sell. And given the profit margin on SUVs, they seem to be right. As far as I'm concerned they are just another way to separate idiots from their money as quickly as possible.

If I was looking to replace my 11-year-old Caravan (which I'm not, since it's in great shape and does everything I need it to do), I be looking at a Pacifica or maybe holding out for the SRT-8 described in the other thread. A 5-series wagon would be great but is beyond my means.

There's nothing in the world wrong with station wagons. In fact, I'm half-looking at WRXs, and I'll most likely get a wagon if I do.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
But... as has been duly noted millions of times, companies build what they think will sell. And given the profit margin on SUVs, they seem to be right. As far as I'm concerned they are just another way to separate idiots from their money as quickly as possible.


And what can I do about it? Form a one-man committee and tell carmakers that I want station wagons? If companies build what they think will sell, why don't they take a cue from Subaru, who sells more Outbacks than Saab sells vehicles? Wagons sell - but companuies don't want to sell them.

If I was looking to replace my 11-year-old Caravan (which I'm not, since it's in great shape and does everything I need it to do), I be looking at a Pacifica or maybe holding out for the SRT-8 described in the other thread. A 5-series wagon would be great but is beyond my means.

Exactly! Pacificas are going to be starting on the high end of $34,000, and aren't technically wagons. An SRT-8 might float your boat, but many minivan owners probably won't dig the style and speed. 5-series wagons are too expensive. Nothing fits perfectly in the wagon market. Meanwhile, in the SUV market, there's hundreds of choices and hundreds of vehicles - easy to find a fit.

There's nothing in the world wrong with station wagons. In fact, I'm half-looking at WRXs, and I'll most likely get a wagon if I do.

I love wagons - there's simply not enough. Ford sells four SUV's and just one [really crappy!] wagon - that should say it all.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Your market must suck. Just off the top of my head, in Australia you can get:
Audi A4 Avant
Audi A6 Avant
Alfa Romeo 156 wagon
BMW 3 series wagon
BMW 5 series wagon
Ford Falcon wagon
Holden Commodore wagon
Mercedes Benz C-Class wagon
Mercedes Benz E-Class wagon (not in the new model yet)
Mitsubishi Magna wagon
Rover 75 wagon
Saab 9-5 wagon
Toyota Corolla wagon (they push it as a people-mover, but kids, it's a wagon).
Suzuki Baleno wagon
Countless Volvo wagons

I'm sure I missed a couple.

We don't get the 156, Falcon, Commodore (or any GM wagon), Magna (or any Mitsu wagon), Rover, Toyota Corolla (or any Toyota wagon), or Baleno (Esteem).

We do get the Audis, BMW's, Merc's, and three Volvos, as well as one [crappy] Ford/Mercury wagon, and two Subaru wagons (Imp and Leg, which you've left out). Twelve, if I've got it right.
 
Oh man - I left out the Subaru wagons - Legacy/Liberty, Impreza and Outback!

Wow - your market really does suck...
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
There's nothing in the world wrong with station wagons. In fact, I'm half-looking at WRXs, and I'll most likely get a wagon if I do.

Just a note on the WRX wagon - the Impreza wagon runs a narrower front track than the sedan, and is set-up quite a deal softer (this may have changed with the facelift). I would definitely recommend a test-drive back to back with the sedan.
 
Without a doubt. It's heavier, too. I didn't know if that translated into WRX territory though. Thanks for the tip!
 

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