auto leasing

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Lately ive been interested in buying a new car but ive heard that leasing is better and cheaper. Is leasing a car really that much cheaper than buying as far as monthly payments. Ive gone to some websites but all they do is give me something to fill out and im supposed to wait for someone to call me. They cant give me any idea on the website what i might have to pay so can anyone here give me some kind of idea on what the average monthly payments could be on leasing a car?
 
Just keep in mid that after your lease is up you either have to pay the rest (normally around ~$5,000 I believe) or give the car back.
 
SS69
Lately ive been interested in buying a new car but ive heard that leasing is better and cheaper.
NO! NEVER!

Not for me, anyway. Leasing a car amounts to renting it for three years. At the end of that time you're stuck with a large buyout payment instead of a clear title and a car in your name.

The only time leasing a car makes sense is if you are the type of person who wants to drive a new car every three years anyway, and even then, barely. Personally, I only think a car starts to be worth owning once you have it paid off and it still has 3-5 years of life left in it. I keep my cars a minimum of 5 years, with very few exceptions; both new cars that I've bought were 11 and 9 years old when I replaced them, and I'd still have them except they both got killed in accidents. Until that happened, I owned 4 cars at one time and hadn't carried a car payment on any of them for at least 5 years.

That's a lot of cash saved.

Leasing is commmonly used today to live outside your means. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but to me if you can't afford to pay a car off in 3 years, 4 years tops, you shouldn't be buying that expensive a car. Remember, cars only become cost-effective when you're not making a payment on them but you can still drive them every day. With a lease, that day never comes.
 
One thing you really have to watchout, when you lease a vehicle is that when you actually return the car to the dealer, they will inspect it closely. They will try to look for excessive wear and damage on the car, so they can penalize you with fines. Lease only if you can keep the car, squeaky clean.

Edit: Your user profile says, "wow you can change this". Mine was "hey you can change this" when I figured that one out. :lol:
 
Duke
The only time leasing a car makes sense is if you are the type of person who wants to drive a new car every three years anyway

Agreed. It's really a matter of philosophy --do you view a car as an financial asset (value of the car over a period of time) or a monthly expense (what it costs you each month)? If your view is the latter, then leasing might make sense for you.

Here's an example of a person where leasing actually makes more sense. My wife has a girlfriend who grows bored of her cars very quickly. About every 18 months she starts to look for a new car and almost never keeps a car longer than 30 months tops.

If you factor in the fact that for the first year, the car is depreciating much faster than you can build any equity in it, she's basically paying on the interest for most the time, then getting hosed on depreciation. In finance-speak, she is always "upside down" on the car --it is worth less than what she owes on it.

Everytime she walks into a showroom, she ends up paying someone to take the car, then rolling over some amount of negative equity into the new loan. Not smart.

I finally told her that with that sort of lifestyle choice --and it is a lifestyle choice-- she's way better off leasing for 36 months, then getting into another lease. Long term it makes more sense for her. She can lower her monthly payments or get a nicer car for the same money, and she's never rolling over any negative equity --as long as she doesn't want to get out of a lease early.

But if you're like Duke and tend to hang onto a car for years --another lifestyle choice-- then leasing makes absolutely no sense. Where you end up way ahead is in the long run.

BTW, Duke.. if you think leasing a car is awful, have you heard of the interest-only home loans you can get now? :crazy: (new to me, anyway) Funny thing is, in some real estate markets where there is a crazy housing boom, you still end up making loads of money because the value of the home can double over 4-5 years-- equity that's still all yours, even though you've paid nothing but interest in the original loan amount. Not that I'm a fan of the concept or anything...


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I'm the type of person who gets cars all the time, I think my truck is the longest I've owned a vehicle...2 years. I've never onced leased a car, it's just better to find a slightly used car and pay 5 grand under the new price of the car. Works everytime.
 
Lately ive been interested in buying a new car but ive heard that leasing is better and cheaper. Is leasing a car really that much cheaper than buying as far as monthly payments.

The answer is that it's complicated. For companies its cost effective to lease - but you're not a company, so moving on.

If you can find a lease where the dealership guesses badly about the depreciation of the car you can come out ahead on the lease. If your payments on the lease were 350/month with a $1500 down payment and a $3000 balloon payment at the end that lasts for 3 years, you'll end up paying a total of $17,100 to own the car for 3 years and (probably limited to) 36000 miles TOPS. That's a lot of money to own a car for a very short period of time.

Now let's say you bought the car for $35,000 (cash). That menas you can't make interest on that $35,000 while it would have been in the bank (or, more likely in your case, it means you'll lose interest on it because its borrowed). Either way you're behind by (lets say) 5% or so on that money for 3 years. That means that you could have made a little over $5,500 on that money in interest over 3 years, but you didn't because you had it tied up in the car. So by purchasing, you're behind by over 5 grand in interest, but you're also behind by the amount the car depreciates. Let's say that after 3 years and 36k/mi you could sell the car back to the dealership for $22,900 - that's a loss of $12,100 dollars in the value of the car. Add the $5,500 you lost in interest to the $12,100 you lost in car value and you get $17,100 dollars as the total cost of owning the car. Exactly the same amount you would have paid if you had leased the car.

Now, those are ugly calculations becuase there is really more to it than that. You also have to take into account that your down payment and monthly payments on the lease could earn interest as well - but these are the main factors.

So in this hypothetical you broke even between the lease and purchasing. The bottom line is, do you think the value of the car will be higher than $22,900? If so, you should buy the car to save money. If not, then the lease isn't priced well and you can actually save money by leasing (the dealership loses the money).

So in the end its a gamble. You have to wonder what the depreciation of a car will be when you have no way of knowing - but neither does the dealership. You can estimate it based on previous years' models (and the dealership will certainly do so). Most of the time the dealership will stack the deck so that you'll lose money on it. Sometimes you'd actually gain money on it. You also have to guess what the market is going to return on your investments - if you could have made 12% for example you should totally have leased. There are software programs that are supposed to help you calculate whether it is a good lease price or not... if you're thinking about leasing I would recommend getting one of those.

All in all, I don't recommend leasing unless you've got lots of money to play with and you really want to have a new car every three years and rarely put miles on them... or if you have a company.

I'm the type of person who gets cars all the time, I think my truck is the longest I've owned a vehicle...2 years. I've never onced leased a car, it's just better to find a slightly used car and pay 5 grand under the new price of the car. Works everytime.

As best I can tell, this is the most cost effective way to own cars. Buy them with about 30k mi on them and about 2 or 3 years old. Then sell them before they get too close to 100k or the value will drop and you'll have to start paying for repairs.
 
How about as an alternative to leasing: get a bank loan for the amount of the car, then "own" the car but owe the bank for it? It's similar, and at the end of the payments, the car is yours - you don't owe anyone anything. You can similarly buy a nicer car than you can afford, too.
 
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