Awful Grades= Harvard?!?!

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My sister told me she has bad grades (Ds and Fs) through out high school but she feels bothered that pieces of paper should determine who she is, and what education she deserves. So she asked me how a bright girl with ugly grades and no extra curricular activities can enter HARVARD! She is barely graduating from High School! I told her she should go to a junior college, and try to work her ass off doing everything from fencing to pioneering new math equations get good superb grades there and try to make a great essay and putting your best foot foward to show Harvard. Would Harvard forgive her for her redeeming qualities in junior college? If she ****ed up highschool, but did great in junior college would Harvard accept her? She is a bright but lazy girl. What do you guys think?
 
No, I don't think so. You're aiming way too high, she could have a 97% average all through high school and a ton of extra cirriculars and still not get in.

Having said that, if she's serious about attending a internationally reknowned school such as Harvard, I'd recommend trying jr college, getting really high grades, and instead of joining things like fencing (not to say don't do those things, do them because you want to, not for your resume) but get really involved in the community and try to make a difference there. Harvard wants future leaders and people that will add to their reputation, and make a difference in the world. Failing that, make a contribution to the school, $10,000,000 USD should be more than enough. :sly:
 
It costs 10 million for Harvard, hmm that's three years of living in a cardboard box without buying much food or paying the bills for me. I make a good living but I'm not quite there yet, or where I would like to be. This is SUCH A BIG ****ing deal to my sister. Pain in the ass that she messed up her own career. I told her junior college but I sense an impatience about her.
 
I don't understand :confused:

aphrodite
My sister told me she has bad grades (Ds and Fs) through out high school...She is barely graduating from High School...this is SUCH A BIG ****ing deal to my sister

If this is such a big deal to her, then why did she tank in high school. I don't know your sister, but if she's too lazy to work for something that really matters to her, knowing full well the admissions standards, but chooses instead to complain about that process and says that she doesn't want her grades to define her, instead it appears she's chosen to define herself by malaise and immaturity, no offense, but she'd get eaten alive at Harvard.
 
I told her that, she got angry with me and said that it dissappoints her that I think so less of her. She said she made the mature tunaround after the fact. I think nothing has really changed just her regret and ego. She wants to add a nice name to her resume when she tries to find a job. I have to say though I admire her somewhat. The mere fact that she is crazy enough to think she can get into HArvard with the lowest GPA makes me wonder if she will actually have crazy miracles happening for her.

I told her I can always fund for her activities such as community service, organizing a patriot parade or party. I even thought about giving her one of my cheap estates in Costa Mesa but I realized if she doesn't take herself seriously I am afraid she will ruin my real estate so I decided to just give her some but not a lot of money?
 
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$10,000,000 for Harvard are they insane?

No, I'm saying that's how much you'd have to donate to the school for them to accept someone with as poor grades as your sis. Tutition there is around $30,000/year
 
I know one person who went to Harvard, he scored a perfect 1600 on his SATS, took all weighted AP classes in high school, and never got a grade below an A in his life...

Your sister doesn't have much of a chance of going to Harvard, although if she went to junior college and did well there she could still make it into a very good university, just not Harvard.
 
According to a local story in Va, Harvard is about $41,000 for the freshman year.
 
It isn't just a piece of paper that gives you access to that. The results give the access. Being bright doesn't mean anything when you're lazy. Do you think it will get less work in college / university? You're terribly wrong then. Getting a college degree depends on 20% intelligence and 80% effort. So if your sister is lazy then she shouldn't be going to Harvard, her grades pretty much show that. Do you think college professors became professors by being born bright? No they didn't, they worked hard for it.
 
A colleague of mine from high school attends Harvard. He went on a full rowing (crew) scholarhip, he was nationally ranked in the top ten in the country for his age when he went. I don't know if he still rows or even goes there.
 
I'm sorry to be so blunt, but your sister has issues. Does she plan on getting a job, then complaining after they fire her, "Well, I'm capable of doing all the work, but I just don't do it—what's wrong with that?".

Honestly, I think it's a lost cause, unless she becomes a completely different person within the next few years.
 
I don't think that she will be accepted to Harvard, even if she went to a Jr. College. If she was aiming for Harvard, she should have tried in high school, rather than blowing it off.
 
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. Would Harvard forgive her for her redeeming qualities in junior college? If she ****ed up highschool, but did great in junior college would Harvard accept her?
Nope, I sure don't think so. Let's put it this way:
If a person starts making alot of crime f.e robbing and stuff, and then says to judge that "he/she wasn't commiting any crimes before they'll still going to punish him.


I.e it's the present performance done by her that's the important.
 
Aphrodite
My sister told me she has bad grades (Ds and Fs) through out high school but she feels bothered that pieces of paper should determine who she is.
Pieces of paper aren't determining who she is. She is. And what she's made of herself is what determines what education she deserves.

Sounds like a whiny brat, to me.
 
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