B-Spec is something I just can't.....

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Get into. I've tried giving it a chance but it's just a totally frustrating experience. I mean, my driver had a Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus and was up against the likes of a Peugeot 307XSi, Peugeot 207 GTi, Honda Integra Type-R (DC2) etc and he couldn't move past 5th position in the FF Challenge on Beginner and ended up 6th. I mean, a bloody 307 XSi had its arse right in front of him and instead of overtaking, he slows dows.
His bar goes into the red and so I tell him 'decrease pace' and it hardly has any effect, even after I give the command about 8 times.
So then I get a Suzuki Cappuccino and go into the Lightweight K championship. Well, what do you know? He's in 7th out of 8 👍 even though the Cappuccino should be the best performing lightweight Japanese car.
Plus, on B-Spec you race 6 laps, not 3. So you've got to sit there for 10 minutes giving instructions like he's a bloody 2 year old or something and even then, he drives like an absolute moron.....
If you leave him to his own devices, he'll come last or not far off. Sure, you can give him an overpowering car and he'll win but that's no longer fun or challenging. I always try whenever possible to race in A-Spec with stock cars, whether road cars or race cars.

Thankfully B-Spec is only optional and the game can still be completed on A-Spec without having to touch B-Spec. I assume all the cars that you win on B-Spec can be bought in the dealerships anyway?
 
the fact you are telling him to decrease pace is why he finished in 6th

tell him to overtake and increase pace until he is in 1st place.
 
CraZ
the fact you are telling him to decrease pace is why he finished in 6th

tell him to overtake and increase pace until he is in 1st place.
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Do this, once he's first, decrease his pace. It gets easier once you train Bob more and you get better cars.
 
CraZ
the fact you are telling him to decrease pace is why he finished in 6th

tell him to overtake and increase pace until he is in 1st place.
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That's fine but then he goes way into the red and crashes/spins out.
 
I think the crashing and spinning out is GT's heavy handed way of suggesting to upgrade the tires and possibly upgrade the suspension.
 
What I have found with B-Spec is to put the best tyres on that are available for the event and also don't keep him in the red for long , try to keep him just below the maximum. A good setup for the car helps alot too , stick with it it's well worth getting into as there are some great car's that you win and millions of credits. Im on level 26 now and I havn't had to babysit my drivers much at all I can just put them in a race and leave them to it while I do something else. It's easy money which is why I like it.
 
He wont be a good driver until he's about level 15. It's annoying as hell getting there but he does get better and the rewards are worth it.
 
Get yourself an FGT. It can be entered into most races, and with that car you just start a B-Spec race and go do something else. You will win. I hate B-Spec, but it's worth grinding to get to the Expert series where you can let it run races on its own to get you easy money. Seriously, I've entered level 0 drivers into races with that car and they come out on top.
 
No matter how bad it sucks You'll still gain credits and sweet prize cars that make it worth it.

Good tires and an overpowered car are a necessity in b spec.
 
SideShow Bob
He does get better.. but it is a frustrating experience.
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I agree 100%. To begin with, my results were last, last, last, last, last, last, last. I took a break for a while and I've enjoyed it slightly more since I've come back. I can't ever see getting to level 30 or higher though.

I'm at level 7 now and my results are a lot better, but they still tend to be first or last, and nothing in between. I've not yet found the balance between my driver being hopelessly uncompetitive and giving him an overpowered car to crush the opposition. The closest I've come to a competitive but possible race was giving him a tuned-up Jaguar E-type at the Eiger, practically more horsepower than the opposition put together, but a very close race from start to finish because he had such a difficult job containing it around the hairpins.
 
Well, the only thing I can think of is to slap on the best tyres allowed and hope the extra grip will give him a bit of an advantage. What should I do in the Lightweight K race, though? Why is he coming almost last in the Cappuccino??? Is it a matter of simply grinding out results, whatever they are, until his level increases enough to make him a better driver and then he would just naturally drive better?
 
Some events are really tough like the truck race at laguna seca, there's just no passing zones (for the AI). Its better to skip these tough ones and come back to them later when your driver is a higher level.

Have you raised the HP as high as you can for the cappuccino?

Most cars need to be heavily modified for B spec races.
 
This is why I waited for the X1. I don't even look at the race after he's made it to first (even with the X1, I don't trust him to get there on his own).

It's a shame that B-Spec has so many good prize cars. It's the only reason I bother.

Since you actually want to make a challenge out of B-Spec though, maybe you should just use the X1 for leveling purposes?
 
The fact that people say that when he gets good, you can walk away and let him do it on his own just has pointless written all over it, if the game was meant to be that easy, why not put in the fast forward function?!
 
He will get "good" if you do 2 things:

a. Give him a faster car than everyone else, (I used X2010)
b. Stay as far away for Cote D'Azur as you can, the A.S. for this track is insane, every bot crashes there including B-Spec drivers and mines level 21

Also when choosing a B-Spec guy, choose one with the cool/hot bar thing in the middle, cool = slow hot = stupid
 
grog
Some events are really tough like the truck race at laguna seca, there's just no passing zones (for the AI). Its better to skip these tough ones and come back to them later when your driver is a higher level.

Have you raised the HP as high as you can for the cappuccino?

Most cars need to be heavily modified for B spec races.
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I hate that aspect of it. If I have to heavily modify a car to win a race, I just don't want to do it. The point imo of the K race is to race the cars how the manufacturers intended them to perform. If they get an injection of 200hp or something, then it's no longer a Suzuki Cappuccino but something else entirely.
 
Has anyone noticed the properties such as braking, cornering and accuracy? For some reason all my bobs tend to improve accuracy quicker than the other two:confused:
Is that because im spending too much time on Indy speedway? Do the tracks you race effect this?
 
B-Spec is very irritating in the early levels. You really need to get to B-Spec level 15 and beyond before it starts becoming "enjoyable" (Although I'm not sure if it's ever as enjoyable as actually racing yourself!)

Once you get plenty of drivers and can get the class levels up to 15 and above, things become a bit easier. Getting to that point though, you'll wanna headbutt some walls.

I'm now level 28 and I have 6 drivers, all of which are class 24 (I share the load)

All of these guys can do pretty well in any car, but I recently ran the Laguna endurance race and put them in an Enzo - didn't even manage to lap the 2nd place car, which was a Stingray :| - I had the Enzo down to 1050kg, with rear aero and just an ECU upgrade. The tyres were Sports hard, which was a mistake (limit was Soft) - tyre choice does make a large difference, or it seems to. I beat a 350bhp Stingray by about 59 seconds in the end, over 90 laps - in a car with twice the power and a lot less weight.

I'd second the idea of putting them in the FGT. If you do not have it, use the Furai, it's a car that Bob's do well in and it is won very easily in B-Spec at a very early stage. It'll easily win the Super GT event in Extreme - so you can use it for almost all races where it's eligible and win comfortably.
 
Just don't try to many tough races. Let Bob level up on the easy races and you will have no problems. Before you know it he will be winning every race.
 
Ryan81
I hate that aspect of it. If I have to heavily modify a car to win a race, I just don't want to do it. The point imo of the K race is to race the cars how the manufacturers intended them to perform. If they get an injection of 200hp or something, then it's no longer a Suzuki Cappuccino but something else entirely.
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Same, I try to beat most a spec races with my cars as stock as possible. But that's why I have 2 different cars for basically almost every race. Example the pickup race, I have my SVT Lightning which I kept stock for me and a Silvarado SS tuned for bob. Costs more money but it's a bit of a compromise.
 
Is your Bob a bit of a hot-head, or a calm type - that makes a difference in how far into the red you can go. Also as Stune says, can you remember what Bob's abilities were like for cornering/braking/speed; these things are determine how he tackles certain courses.

Also you don't need to max every car out like some are saying here - despite your comments about preferring not to. Good tyres, weight reduction or ensuring about a 50bhp advantage should do it; it makes the whole thing far more fun too. The Bob learns more quickly that way it seems.

Good luck.
 
ac3h01e
Same, I try to beat most a spec races with my cars as stock as possible. But that's why I have 2 different cars for basically almost every race. Example the pickup race, I have my SVT Lightning which I kept stock for me and a Silvarado SS tuned for bob. Costs more money but it's a bit of a compromise.
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Yeah, some races are heavily set against Bob...

Daytona Truck
NASCAR championship
Yaris cup

For these you might have to go in a bit more tooled up, or come back when Bob has more experience, as suggested.
 
I thought it was somewhat frustrating at first, and I put a ton of money into modifying cars so that he could finally win once he had 200 hp more than any other car. I guess it helps if you keep a sense of humor about it though. The game has so much grinding in a-spec that I'd often be burned out on it, and kicking back in the La-Z-Boy and issuing commands to my moron was a welcome change of pace. And the constant stream of prize cars didn't hurt either, although most of them were pretty crappy until you get up to higher levels.

Once you get your b-spec guys all the way through the extreme series, you can just have them do the Dream Car Championship over and over, winning a million credits each time. All you have to do is check in every 15 minutes or so and start the next race. So in the end I think it's kind of worth it. I haven't had to drive around Indy in ages :)
 
I just started B-Spec a few days ago and still haven't won the yaris race. My guys goes off at the first corner and at about 3 others, probably because he lacks XP but half the other guys went off aswell which was strange because they didn't on A-Spec and I thought all AI and the bobs would drive more careful than that tbh.
 

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