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[Famine]

I am officially "hacked off", and that doesn't happen a lot.

I know and appreciate that there is a thirst for information about GT4, especially so soon after the release date. I also know and appreciate that the moderating team are overworked and under (or rather not) paid.

The flood of useless jabbering in the forum is getting seriously OOC. All the information one could want is contained in the "Read This" threads at the beginning, including official car lists, track lists, race lists and translations which are updated as the information arrives at our Far Eastern members' fingertips. Yet no-one reads it and asks "Is xxx car in?" and "Why isn't xxx track in?" and "What's xxx like?".

Now, 1twojay's thread about GT4 is good - it's growing insanely, but it's good. There's 200 pages (at 20 per page) of questions and answers, screenshots and links. Almost all of the other goosenargh is rendered irrelevant by it and the Read This threads. Plus the site saw a record number of visitors on 28th December too...


Would it be possible to put a loading page in before one is taken to the GT4 forum - saying something along the lines of "In the interests of legibility, ease of navigation and bandwidth, please read the READ THIS threads in this forum before making any posts. Failure to comply may result in action being taken by the site's moderation team" (as is currently in place before making a new thread for new members)?

The flood - and sheer volume of information and non-information - is getting too large for the moderators to be expected to sift through. They have to surf the site too!

[/exasperated filibustering]

 

[ExigeEvan]

I agree with you completely Famine. They amount of unnecessary threads that have popped up in the last hour or so is terrifying.

I really think we need to stop new users creating threads (even if temporarily).

In the interests of legibility, ease of navigation and bandwidth, please read the READ THIS threads in this forum before making any posts. Failure to comply may result in action being taken by the site's moderation team"

But I think we need something shorter and more to the point than this.

Like, "have you searched yet?"

 

[j8mie]

I was thinking the same thing eariler today. An hour doesn't go by without someone asking for pictures of a certain car, or asking if something made it into the final game.

However I do feel there are too many sticky threads again. Could some of these not be cut down. For example, do we need a offical car list thread and prize car list??

Cheers

Jamie

 

[pimp racer]

I agree but do you reall think the new members or any member is really gonna read it? They will just click on the ok button or something. I say that you have a set amount of time before you can click the "ok" button. What I am saying is lets say Famine's thing about before you post warning actually goes into action. You have to read what he wrote about the punishment and things like that but before you can click ok I have read this message and conutine to post the button which you click to post is not available for lets say a certain amount of seconds? Maybe 15-30 seconds?

 

[eddieturner2002]

What about a page before the GT4 forum saying "I agree to search for information about the game of GT4 before I post questions I want answering" then have a little checkbox that has to be ticked by you otherwise it will not allow to press continue and go into the forum. After, if someone makes a stupid question or thread, the mods can punish accordingly.

 

[pimp racer]

What about a page before the GT4 forum saying "I agree to search for information about the game of GT4 before I post questions I want answering" then have a little checkbox that has to be ticked by you otherwise it will not allow to press continue and go into the forum. After, if someone makes a stupid question or thread, the mods can punish accordingly.

Yeah but the thing is what Famine is talking about is putting something just like that before posting such as putting a message like that before I post this very message but only for the GT4 area I hope. And what I am saying is we have that feature but you cant click ok to post until a certain amount of seconds to cut down on the spamming.

 

[Sharky.]

I bet some people only register here to ask a question about GT4 (without using the search function first) that has already been answered in another thread, and dont bother looking around for the answer in other threads. Something needs to be done about this.

 

[pimp racer]

I bet some people only register here to ask a question about GT4 (without using the search function first) that has already been answered in another thread, and dont bother looking around for the answer in other threads. Something needs to be done about this.

Yeah that is 99.9% of the time right.
*EDIT* Famine do you have your GT4 copy yet?

 

[Sharky.]

What about the other 0.1%?

 

[McLaren]

I gurantee you guys, that mose of these new members will never show their faces around here again after they get their answer. Their accounts will be left untouched until the day Jordan actually decides he wants to do something about these old unotuched accounts.

But I like Eddie's idea along with Famine's.

 

[pimp racer]

I gurantee you guys, that mose of these new members will never show their faces around here again after they get their answer. Their accounts will be left untouched until the day Jordan actually decides he wants to do something about these old unotuched accounts.

But I like Eddie's idea along with Famine's.

Yeah me and a few other people I think a long tiime ago (not sure if this is correct) late at night were in the GTPlanet chatroom and I cant rember correctly but someone talked about GTP being even more busy then it is right now when the game is out in the US since people are gonna ask how to unlock a certain car and need help with what car to get and etc.. I still cant rember when this conversation took place though. I think this was like a few months ago. Around November not sure since it was late late at night.

 

[Jordan]

I've already linked the new thread button to the "Search First" page. If that doesn't work, the chances of a general warning every time a user enters the forum enjoying more success are very slim. I'm going to discuss the moderation of new threads, so that they must be approved before they are displayed, with the moderators. That may be the best solution.

 

[pimp racer]

I've already linked the new thread button to the "Search First" page. If that doesn't work, the chances of a general warning every time a user enters the forum enjoying more success are very slim. I'm going to discuss the moderation of new threads, so that they must be approved before they are displayed, with the moderators. That may be the best solution.

Hope this works out. But dont you think that would be too much work on the Moderators side? Oh and what about on days when there is no mod? I think on the 1st of this month there was no mod online I think. (I was thinking they were having a hangover because of the New Years party they might have gone to. )

 

[Jordan]

But dont you think that would be too much work on the Moderators side?

Of course it will, but you will not find an automated solution to this problem short of banning new members from posting altogether (which I already said I will not do). An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Oh and what about on days when there is no mod?

Then no new threads would be posted in the GT4 forum.

 

[pimp racer]

Of course it will, but you will not find an automated solution to this problem short of banning new members from posting altogether (which I already said I will not do). An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Then no new threads would be posted in the GT4 forum.

WOW nice quote there!

Ha I cant argue with the last answer. BTW will this only be in the GT4 area or all throughout GTP?

 

[Jordan]

Thread moderation would only be applied in the GT4 Forum.

 

[pimp racer]

Thread moderation would only be applied in the GT4 Forum.

Ok thanks for the info.

 

[Famine]

I've already linked the new thread button to the "Search First" page. If that doesn't work, the chances of a general warning every time a user enters the forum enjoying more success are very slim. I'm going to discuss the moderation of new threads, so that they must be approved before they are displayed, with the moderators. That may be the best solution.

Knockout. Cheers, Jordan.

*continues sticking hair back on head*

 

[Sharky.]

Of course it will, but you will not find an automated solution to this problem short of banning new members from posting altogether (which I already said I will not do). An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Then no new threads would be posted in the GT4 forum.

Going off the number of new threads that are opened in the GT4 forum daily, I wonder if the mods can handle it by themselves - you might need to borrow a couple of extra mods from other areas. 💡

 

[sn00pie]

Don't worry, most of the moderators have been pitching in in the GT4 forum for quite some time now.

 

[cjrciadt]

I have been pondering the question of Subforms for GT4. With the first 3 series games their are multiple sub-forms for settings drifting etc. but none yet for GT4 since in was released besides Prologue. Can I propose at least a few for the next months?

1. LAN, ilink, Onl-line Play
2. Setting and Config
3. Mission Hall and Licences
4. Drifting in GT4
5. Photomode Gallery

the relieve the clutter that clogs the main page and divid it to seperate sub forms 👍 Just a suggestion let me know what you think of this idea.

 

[pimp racer]

I have been pondering the question of Subforms for GT4. With the first 3 series games their are multiple sub-forms for settings drifting etc. but none yet for GT4 since in was released besides Prologue. Can I propose at least a few for the next months?

1. LAN, ilink, Onl-line Play
2. Setting and Config
3. Mission Hall and Licences
4. Drifting in GT4
5. Photomode Gallery

the relieve the clutter that clogs the main page and divid it to seperate sub forms 👍 Just a suggestion let me know what you think of this idea.

Its a good idea but I am sure Jordan will make them when the game is out for us in the USA. BTW Jordan when will this "Thread moderation" go into action?

 

[Cosmic]

I have been pondering the question of Subforms for GT4. With the first 3 series games their are multiple sub-forms for settings drifting etc. but none yet for GT4 since in was released besides Prologue. Can I propose at least a few for the next months?

1. LAN, ilink, Onl-line Play
2. Setting and Config
3. Mission Hall and Licences
4. Drifting in GT4
5. Photomode Gallery

the relieve the clutter that clogs the main page and divid it to seperate sub forms 👍 Just a suggestion let me know what you think of this idea.

That's good idea but "LAN, ilink, Onl-line Play" could be in the On-Line Racing forums

 

[Jimmy Enslashay]

Don't worry, most of the moderators have been pitching in in the GT4 forum for quite some time now.

Even I have! Scary!

I think the Thread Moderation will do for now, as I don't think Jordan wants to upset too many users, whether they be new or not, as some can be decent members. I think that, whether you like it or not, this is how GTP will be as GT4 gets distributed. I know it's very irritating, as I've been looking through there every now and again, and I can say it's exhausting to even try and help out as just a Moderator, but it's the way it's going to be with GT4.

I think if Jordan gets too strict here, it will create a lot of complaints, which I don't think he wants too much. I even have another suggestion. How about if there is a thread which has a simple question involved that isn't exactly a stupid question, but it's a question not worthy of a new thread, I think it would be a good idea to reply to their question if the Moderator handling the situation feels like it. Of course, questions like "Is this car going to be in GT4?", etc, don't have to be answered, but for the others, it may be a good idea to keep the new user happy, along with the regulars so they aren't seeing those threads everywhere.

What does everyone think about that?

 

[Blake]

But your moderating powers are worthless outside of the GTA Forums....

 

[Jimmy Enslashay]

I'm suggesting something for one. But if you're referring to me "helping out" in the GT4 Forum, I've been going in there occasionally, and guiding some people, and using my big bad scary "Moderator" title to try and calm a few people down. It worked a couple of times, although an hour later it was complete panemonium again...

Sigh.

 

[SkylineObsession]

* Mustang-man turns avatars off so he doesn't see any more GT4 shots in them.

Anywho i think the thread moderation is an excellent idea. Eventually people will start waking up to the idea of reading the sticked posts (when they find their topic is nowhere to be found).

Meanwhile i have to finish San Andreas, get a job so i can afford to run the turbo Nissan Skyline i bought last Friday (December 31) and then start saving for GT4 and the Driving Force Pro!

 

[The359]

Holy crap! I don't think there was a need to remove EVERY sticky thread from the top of the GT4 forum. I think some of them still need to be there. People are more likely to see them then thare to see the "Read This First" and follow the links...

There's really no reason for my car list to be buried 20 pages down. It should be stuck at the top.

 

[Jordan]

The Search First page has been updated, and all new threads in the GT4 Forum must be approved before they are displayed.

 

[Iceman]

I think this will really pay off Jordan, there are just so many useless threads it was about the only thing that could be done 👍.