Banning openwheel cars? (Please close mods)

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Forthe guy who posted the X1. Open up gt5, pick the X1(X2011 whatever they call it now) and drive on the rain. Come on, go do it. Try aand do 5 laps. I dare you. Not even in a fantasy car can they get windshield wipers to work with such a windshield profile. And thats not even assesing what happens when one of these closed cockpit F1s ends upside down. How are they to open the cockpit from a burning car? Youd end up with more risk by doing the closed cockpit F1 than to just keep improving helmet and tire safety.

The open wheel thing, while indy now has as closed wheels as they can get and still count as open you have to understand open wheelers bring a different type of racing than closed. Look at the racing in lemans and DTM and even JGTC. Its all very close contact racing, and lets not even get to nascar. Open wheelers demand precision driving from multiple parties to avoid touching as they all know a single touch can be the end of the race. Its what makes F1 what it is. Drastically changing something is nowhere as effective as evolving something.
 
I could see some token "Fenders" being put on F1 Cars, a la Caterham 7. But a closed cockpit? Would bring more issues than the issues it may solve.

With regard to the Plexiglass catch-fence-
The chain-link flexes to some degree, whoch absorbs some of the energy. I think the plexiglass might be too stiff. And over time, brittle.
 
The ACO is banning open cockpit sports cars for safety

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...014 unveiled&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13397314516841

Now lets see if the open wheel world can grow a pair and follow suit

ExigeEvan
It's a poor compromise, and one that doesn't suit.

Introducing all that body work only leads to a far, far messier aerodynamic flow over the vehicle. The only justification for such design is to make them road legal. You may as well cover the whole body and have a better air flow for it.

And are you really trying to use a computer game car to justify it?
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There is another justification: safety. And that car was designed by F1's top engineer as what the fastest non restricted race car could possible look like. I'd say its very justified
 
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Earth
The ACO is banning open cockpit sports cars for safety

There is another justification: safety. And that car was designed by F1's top engineer as what the fastest non restricted race car could possible look like. I'd say its very justified
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Closed cockpits are not inherently safer than open cockpits.
 
Earth
I think part of moto's safety issues is the age they let these guys race. I remember a 14 year old kid being killed at Indianapolis in one of the support races leading up to the moto GP round. NASCAR has a 18 year old age limit to drive in the series and I think moto racing should follow that lead.
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Peter Lenz wasn't driving in any of the MotoGP categories (which he would have been too young to race in anyway). He was racing 125gp bikes, which are the type of bikes kids ride after pocket bikes and before 125cc bikes. You didn't really think that the likes of Vale had to wait until they were 16 to start racing bikes did you? The bikes Peter raced were the biking equivalent of a junior formula car. Pocket bikes are the biking equivalent of a go kart, which most Nascar drivers start off in long before they are 18.

Earth
If a driver makes a mistake and crashes, he should have soft walls to bounce off of, plenty of runoff room to get slowed down.
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The problem with having "soft walls to bounce off" is that it could potentially "bounce" one car into the path of another. The current methods used are the best available. They slow down cars and debris.

Earth
Or, maybe like a Jackie Stewart I'm somewhat ahead of my time, advocating safety advances that others mock and ridicule.
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Or maybe you keep suggesting stupid ideas and allow your ego to compare yourself with JYS?

So far you've suggested "bouncy walls" and using a concept designed for a computer game.
 
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Or maybe you keep suggesting stupid ideas and allow your ego to compare yourself with JYS?

So far you've suggested "bouncy walls" and using a concept designed for a computer game.
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I don't have to explain myself

I'm done with this thread and will request it be closed
 
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Poor Mercedes and Protos, they were just too ahead of their time. :indiff: :(
 
Earth
Notice a common theme in these topics: Haters like yourself who believe there is no problem

I'm done with this thread and will request it be closed
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Firstly, you can close the thread yourself if you want. Secondly, I'm no hater. Just because I disagree with your ideas (that include bouncy walls and an idea ripped straight from a computer game that has not had the slightest hint of crash testing) does not make me a hater. I am open to good original ideas, but not the knee jerk, poorly thought out ideas you seem to be offering.

And lastly, you may or may not explain yourself, but I'd like to know why Peter Lenz racing in the local support race at Indy was such a big deal to you. And also, comparing yourself to JYS? Wholly unnecessary and egotistical. And for the record, Jackie is one of my all time heroes.
 
They know well enough what the dangers of racing is, what you find dangerous is for others their everyday job.
 
Earth
There is another justification: safety. And that car was designed by F1's top engineer as what the fastest non restricted race car could possible look like. I'd say its very justified
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But the safety call is weak. It will make it safer, but not safe. The safest thing for F1 cars right now is limiting their performance.

And if you really, really think a design exercise for a computer game is valid justification then perhaps this thread really does need to see the lock.
 

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