Bernie's perhaps slightly barking Part err 101?

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I'm sure it's bound to happen sooner or later, but it would mean some pretty late nights for the racers, something like 10pm in Australia.
 
appie17
Whats the point of having night races?
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So the Europeans can watch it during the day instead of like 2 or 3 in the morning. It's all about marketing and money. Everything is about money these days. If they held a night race in Europe, maybe you guys could watch it at like 8 or nine, and we could see it at around 11 AM:dopey:. Or some race here will be at 2 AM for the Europeans to watch at day.:indiff:

On some of his other points, I would love to see a 20-race calendar. It would be cool for the Netherlands to join the calendar, Russia is a good idea and I'm sure a Latin-American country would be hosting the last slot. This would definitly mean more action and those killer 3-week breaks would be gone. A race a weekend is a good pace.

No Magny-Cours? No problem, unless France doesn't have a GP-worthy track. Sarthe would be awesome, but I'm not sure how that would go over with the cars, people and others. The Bugatti Circuit there would be sweet as well, but again, is it F1 capable? There is also the Nürburging-esque one in the Southern mountains, Charade.
 
We get an afternoon race, if it's in Europe, and an early start time in EST if the race is in Asia.

Something tells me we'll never see a night-time F1 race, although the 1978 Italian GP was stopped after 40 laps since the sun was setting. (The start was red-flagged for [wikipedia]Ronnie Peterson[/wikipedia]'s 1st-lap accident, and a second delay to repair guardrail elsewhere on the circuit, before the race began.)
 
You know we have to watch every race in the middle of the night :sly:

This was brought up a few weeks ago and was a bit of a talking point here. A few drivers were saying it was too dangerous and others were for it.

One of the main issues brought up was working out how to light the whole thing strongly enough to enable drivers to see. It's not really like NASCAR and you can just stick some towers around the edge.
 
Well, the track would have to be really secluded. I don't think people would take too kindly to F1 cars roaring around when the people would otherwise be sleeping.
 
I wouldn't volunteer to marshal it. Especially in the rain. Rain + low light levels = marshal being hit (and more than likely killed) by a spinning F1 car. It's fine for NASCAR to do it, because they have small, easily lit circuits, don't race in the rain, and the marshals don't set foot on the track until the pace car is out. But for F1 to do it would be stupid and dangerous.
 
A knight race?

Who else besides Sir Jack Brabham and Sir Jackie Stewart shall attend?
 
Stupid idea...

Would cost a lot and you cannot race cars that fast at night, you'd have to light the circuit as if it were day for them to be able to safely race. Money may be attractive, but safety is paramount in this sport and I don't personally feel it's a smart idea.
 
Roo
I wouldn't volunteer to marshal it. Especially in the rain. Rain + low light levels = marshal being hit (and more than likely killed) by a spinning F1 car. It's fine for NASCAR to do it, because they have small, easily lit circuits, don't race in the rain, and the marshals don't set foot on the track until the pace car is out. But for F1 to do it would be stupid and dangerous.
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If they did do a night race the light levels wouldn't be a problem.

They'd have to make it so bright, which also means it's more likely to be a street circuit race too.

Light levels (forced not natural obviously) wouldn't be a problem.
 
I don't mind the australian race. It usually starts at 21:30 over here in mountain time zone. 👍
 
Sureshot
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6522367.stm

Night race?

Now though I like the idea of having an afternoon race in Europe live from Asia, India is only 5 hours ahead of us so that's what an 8 AM start, China is 7 hours so that's 6 AM, it's hardly breathtakingly early like Australia is it?

Any thoughts on having an F1 night race?
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Just so you know, and can see how pathetic a complaint from any European is about this topic:

Watching any European race in Australia is broadcasted around 11pm... you'll be lucky to be in bed by 2am on a Sunday night (Monday Morning). Indianapolis is 4am, Sao Paulo - 3am.

The only races we have that works in well for Local Time is our own GP.

Why? Because at the time of the Malaysian and Chinese GPs there is a V8Supercars series race that is broadcasted (or has been for the past 5 years) on the same network, so the race is shown at 11pm that night. At the time of the Japanese GP, we have the Bathurst 1000.

So the only race we ever get to see at a reasonable hour is our own GP.

Doesn't really make your situation seem so bad now does it?
 
Realistically, we're small fry in worldwide broadcasting ratings. Even if every single person in Australia had it on, that's only 20 million. Compare that to world wide audiences and even 20 million would be a small percent.

I agree that the concept of a night race for the Australia GP is not a bad one. Putting the race in say a prime time 8:30 slot would give more people here chance to watch it (I couldn't, I was working, my brother had football, I think some other sporting events are on at the same time), and get a much larger audience from Europe.

It wouldn't be bad either, starting say, the day at 2pm or something. Rather then events starting at 9, nothing worse then having to get up at 6am on a Sunday to catch a train into Albert Park!

The question is, would the increased revenue from the increased European audience compensate for the expenses of lighting 5km of 10m wide track like it was daytime?
 
XGT Taipan
Just so you know, and can see how pathetic a complaint from any European is about this topic:
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Population of Australia is 20 million.

Population of Europe is 728 million.

Population of North America is 514 million.

Its impossible to have a race that everyone can see at a decent time of the day. With the population figures above, Australia is always going to be the area to lose out.

EDIT: And your complaint about the Malaysian, Japanese & Chinese GPs is irrelevant to this discussion as the problem there is not with the time zone, its just that your local networks don't cover them.
 
XGT Taipan
Just so you know, and can see how pathetic a complaint from any European is about this topic:

Watching any European race in Australia is broadcasted around 11pm... you'll be lucky to be in bed by 2am on a Sunday night (Monday Morning). Indianapolis is 4am, Sao Paulo - 3am.

The only races we have that works in well for Local Time is our own GP.

Why? Because at the time of the Malaysian and Chinese GPs there is a V8Supercars series race that is broadcasted (or has been for the past 5 years) on the same network, so the race is shown at 11pm that night. At the time of the Japanese GP, we have the Bathurst 1000.

So the only race we ever get to see at a reasonable hour is our own GP.

Doesn't really make your situation seem so bad now does it?
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Have fewer time zones ;)
 
He he, nice one daan 👍 Night races would be quite cool, but I can't see how they're going to 'guarantee safety', since they can't even do that during daylight.
 
Well I think they mean...

Guaranteeing the safety of driving at night, ie, having enough light to race in. Unless the plan sticking headlights on the cars :D Though at 200mph+ would a headlight be that useful?
 
Sureshot
Well I think they mean...

Guaranteeing the safety of driving at night, ie, having enough light to race in. Unless the plan sticking headlights on the cars :D Though at 200mph+ would a headlight be that useful?
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LMP's turn them on for their night stints, so they must be at least a little helpful. You would be overdriving your field of vision but it would make visual aids that drivers use for braking points (course markers, etc) visible to the driver as they pass.

But..... headlights on an F1 car.... there's just something fundamentally wrong with that idea. 👎
 
Well firstly it'd be more like a spotlight wouldn't it as you could only put it on the nose cone, or else you'd have to redesign the cars completely to allow them (ie, to put them in front of the wheels aka LMP racing.
 
Guys, if the race will be at night the circuits will be completely light. Light will not be a problem if a circuit chooses to race at night.
 
I think this could potentially be an awesome idea. Bernie seems to want Singapore on the calendar as the last race of the season. It's also supposed to be the favourite location for any possible night race. Combine the two and you have an awesome prospect - A night time finale to the season on what should be a fantastic city circuit, at a time that's actually reasonable to people in Europe.

I apologise to all the poor Australians and anyone outside Europe who get the short end of the stick with the possible timing, but the prospect of a night race has got me far too excited. :D
 
You know, I actually like the fact that most races are broadcast at night in Australia. But I don’t like the fact that they’re always delayed. Just give them to us live and I don’t care what time they’re on.

Malaysia is being broadcast with a 5 and a half hour delay, FYI. :grumpy:
 
Ouch. Over here, if the race is on either late at night or early in the morning, ITV will repeat the entire race at a more sane time the next afternoon. For example, the Malaysian GP coverage started at 7.30am here, and is being repeated 3.40pm.

It sucks that all the races are delayed in Australia, but I think this one might be worth the wait. :dopey:
 
Blake
You know, I actually like the fact that most races are broadcast at night in Australia. But I don’t like the fact that they’re always delayed. Just give them to us live and I don’t care what time they’re on.

Malaysia is being broadcast with a 5 and a half hour delay, FYI. :grumpy:
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5 and a half hour delay is better than 5/6 ad breaks a race.
 

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