Best car for "Boxer Spriit" races?

[FunInTheSun]

I used the SUBARU IMPREZA Super Touring Car '01.

Tires: Sports, Soft (S3)
Tuning: Left it alone

Looks nice in black.

 

[Camaro SS]

if you all ask me i think rufs are the best cars cause the're all fast and theycan be tuned easily.(any way the're porsches in a way right????)








with all due respect,

Camaro SS :smilie:

ps the btr is UGLY

 

[Revheadnz]

(any way the're porsches in a way right????)

Nope. Not even slightly. Completely different company. Just look very similar and occasionly share a chassis with a Porsche but apart from that they are not Porsches.

 

[JohnBM01]

So what, you thought the Cizeta supercar was a Ferrari or a Lamborghini? Anyhow, if you can splurge, save up for the Subaru Impreza Touring Car. If you really got money, make it the Impreza Rally Car, but you have to get SOMETHING to take down the competition. When I raced, it was mostly Subarus up against one or two Rufs. Made the upset and got a nice sum of money out of it.

Now go make it happen.

 

[Bilgewater]

I tried with a Karmann Ghia, but it just wasn't strong enough.

 

[Dave A]

if you all ask me i think rufs are the best cars cause the're all fast and theycan be tuned easily.(any way the're porsches in a way right????)

They are similar to Porsches, but they ARN'T Porsches. None of the parts used in an Ruf come from A Porsche, some of them come from Porsche such as the chassis and engines in many models but all the rest of the parts are made by Ruf, the bits from Porsche come straight from the manufacturing plant before becoming part of any car, thus Ruf's cars arn't tuned 911's or Boxsters or whatever.

Ruf manufactures enough parts for each of their catrs themselves for the car to be considered it's own model whereas is too many parts were from Porsche then it would be a Porsche.

Many manufacturers do what Ruf does only usually using a completely different body, cars from different companies share engines, chassis', suspension setups ect so it's not uncommon. And like I've said before, the argument of Ruf being it's own manufacturer or not would never arise if they used different bodies.

 

[Toshi]

They are similar to Porsches, but they ARN'T Porsches. None of the parts used in an Ruf come from A Porsche, some of them come from Porsche such as the chassis and engines in many models but all the rest of the parts are made by Ruf, the bits from Porsche come straight from the manufacturing plant before becoming part of any car, thus Ruf's cars arn't tuned 911's or Boxsters or whatever.

Ruf manufactures enough parts for each of their catrs themselves for the car to be considered it's own model whereas is too many parts were from Porsche then it would be a Porsche.

Many manufacturers do what Ruf does only usually using a completely different body, cars from different companies share engines, chassis', suspension setups ect so it's not uncommon. And like I've said before, the argument of Ruf being it's own manufacturer or not would never arise if they used different bodies.

So they don't pull apart 911s off the production line, but RUFs still are essentially Porsches. As you admit they use the same body, engine (minus normal tuning tweaks), driveline, etc. They're not the only tuner that's granted manufacturer status either, iirc.

 

[Dave A]

They're not a tuner, theres no base car for them to tune up, they build the cars from scratch. Ruf's are similar to Porsches, not the same as Porsches, everything they do take from Porsche is given a going over from Ruf. The bodies arn't the same on all the models either, and Yes I know there are other companies like Ruf that build cars that look the same as another manufacturers like Alpina. It's not that hard to grasp really, I mean look at older TVR's, they used Rover V8 engines, that didn't make them Rovers. The Seat Leon uses the underpinnings of a VW Golf, it's not a Golf though. It's all over the automotive world, the only reason why people go on about Ruf is because they look similar to Porsche's as well even though that has bugger all to do with weather or not a car is a tuned version of another model.

 

[ampsarus]

Looks aren't the only common feature- What other car still in production uses a rear engine layout? There's not any other H-6 motor made besides Porsche's & Subaru's. (H-6 Subaru motors aren't used in motorsport anyway)

 

[Dave A]

Yep, looks arn't the only common feature, although it does depend on what Ruf your talking about, some use Porsche made chassis' and engines, although not every Ruf has this connection with Porsche. The fact that these components are made by Porsche doesn't make an Ruf a Porsche just like the fact that the Seat Leon isn't a VW Golf.

 

[Weezhard]

Nope. Not even slightly. Completely different company. Just look very similar and occasionly share a chassis with a Porsche but apart from that they are not Porsches.

You imply RUF base there production cars on Porsche... (?)

RUF are (extreme) tuners of Porsche cars. They do not, never have, and probably never will, manufacture cars from the ground up (i.e. from concept, thruough design to production). Addmitedly, they have a German manufacturing licencse, but this is to enable them to make such radical changes to a stock porsche car.

 

[Dave A]

Nope, Ruf will offer Porsche owners the opportunities to have their cars tuned BY them, however an Ruf built car is not a tuned anything. What parts they do buy off Porsche are bought unassembled, they arn't part of any car when bought, if the parts arn't part of any car then how can that car be tuned. It can't because it doesn't exist. To tune a car, you need a base car to start with, Ruf don't use a base car, they build and buy the parts and then assemble, no tuning of any other car involved.

Also Ruf now build their own chassis for use in the new R50 supercar, 100% Ruf built.

And it's Ruf not RUF, it's a surname not initials.