Best GT3 (GR.3) in GT5

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    A GT evaluation is underway, looking for best GT3 /GTD/Sp9 car within GT5, that is approx. 1200 kg cars, 605 PP, RH , Front and rear Aero.

    Typical GT3 cars can do the mile in 27.4 seconds, 181 mph, 11 second quarter mile, 6.4 seconds to 100 mph.

    Does GT Sport even have 30 GR.3 cars?

    30 cars were picked that could be tuned close to these specs, avoiding duplicates, SuperGT and DTM, except for 1 sample. Some 4wd models were chosen to make up the numbers. NASCAR and Ferrari 330 P4 were used as outliers, for comparison. Arbitrarily avoided the Stage 3 Turbos when tuning. Chaparral 2J no even considered.

    Tracks are real world, those actually in regular use for various GT3 championships around the world. The 30 cars were were divided in two and three subsets of 10 and 15 each, tracks also grouped into the short, Laguna Seca and Nürburgring D at 90 seconds and medium; Daytona, Motegi, Monza ~110 seconds laps.

    Cars were run in time trials Practice Mode four to six laps each, divided up to run one short and one medium track. After two events the times were compared to adjust BoP, changing the PP to drive performance to the real world. Note, real GT3 times have generally dropped the last two or three years, better tires?

    Impreza TC was maxxed out but was a backmarker with a last place. Dropped for next phase.

    The Lexus IS-F RM also was tuned to max but trailed with a last place. Dropped for next phase.

    The Skyline GT-R R33 TC has a last place and is dropped, tuned to max 600PP just doesn’t have the pace.

    #48 NASCAR Chevy was slow with two last places, but gets a 10 PP boost and will move on. Similarly the Ferrari lagged but will try again with a 9 PP lift.

    So 27 move on to Fuji, Suzuka and Nurburgring F, after those time trials will do another BoP adjustment, cut the bottom 15, then Spa and Sarthe. Will cut the field to 8 for finals at the Nürburgring VLN course.

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    After running 10 cars at Nurburgring V, chasing a 7:58.


    10th. Castrol Supra. Solid car, nice neutral handling; maxxed at 620 PP, just not fast enough. Nice Premium render of a real car.

    534 HP, 1150 kg = 620 PP. 176 mph top speed, 27.588 seconds standing mile. 6.266 seconds 0-100 mph. 10.962 seconds 1/4 mile. Quicker than average a the low end, slower than average 759292042f46c47a85b6e84de65aa383.jpg Road Course - Twin Ring Motegi_4.jpg Toyota-Supra-Castrol-JGTC_tcm-1014-1173229.jpg

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    9th Corvette ZR1 C6 (RM) '09; given another chance after a tuning session at Grand Valley East. Got down to 8:07 at the VLN track, but not enough at 618 PP. Callaway in Germany made GT3 versions of the C6R for various Euro series (some reason GM didn't want them in US series?)

    553 HP, 1209 kg; 618 PP. 183 mph top speed, 27.276 seconds standing mile, 6.351 seconds 0-100 mph, 10.985 seconds 1/4 mile. On paper should have been better but just didn't "feel" good.

    A premium render of a real car.

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    This was a fast car in GT6 and maybe in GT5 in the +630PP range. In GT Sport the Corvette is there as C7R GR.3
     
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    8th. Toyota Woodone Supra . Nice handling but at max 609 PP only good for 8th. Note, a little faster than the Castrol car even though lower PP.

    520 HP, 1100 kg = 609PP. 180 mph, 27.556 seconds standing mile, 6.317 seconds 0-100 mph, 11.110 seconds 1/4 mile. A standard low-def render of a real car.

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    7th. Nissan 350Z Concept LM. Very solid 7th place, maxxed out at 611 PP Had a couple of laps a couple of seconds quicker but redded out pushing it, so could have been a top-five. Felt good like a compact ball that responds directly to gas and brakes. Low def Standard render of a make-believe car, close to Japan SuperGT300 class.

    525 HP, 1120 kg = 611 PP. 186 mph, 27.036 seconds standing mile, 6.377 seconds 0-100 mph, 11.042 seconds 1/4 mile.

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    6th. Camaro Concept LM. Surprise of the group, fast and steady, max 619 PP. I always ignored this car in the past but it is a decent performer, nice neutral handling and almost the same as Viper GTS. Low def Standard render of a make-belief car.

    566 HP, 1175 kg = 619 PP. 185 mph, 27.141 seconds standing mile, 6.447 seconds 0-100 mph time, 11.055 second 1/4 mile.

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    5th. Ford GT LM Spec II handling on the edge, 5th place at 612 PP, tail wagging needs more tuning to neutralize. This was the target model of the real life car:

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    the Nico Verdonck 7:58.558 lap on the Nurburgring V track in 2016 was the goal of the entire GT3 competition. Not really sure of the actual car HP and kg but GT5 has an excellent Premium render of the actual car. Can probably give it 3 more PP and run a couple more laps, should get closer to 1st place.

    536 HP, 1300 kg = 612 PP. 188 mph, 27.058 seconds standing mile. 6.466 seconds 0-100 mph, 11.032 seconds 1/4 mile.

    This car is updated in GT Sport and seems to be one of the fast cars of choice.

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    4th. Lamborghini Diablo GT-1 fast and solid at 609 PP. Point, gas, brake; no vices in handling. Standard very low-def rendering of a real car that campaigned in Japan in the '90s as a backmarker.. Gets a fan-boi simulated boost by Polyphony Digital, remarkably fast and true even at 609 PP, would have placed higher with a more "fair" 612 or 615 PP to match the other top cars. Was not as good in GT6.

    558 HP, 1200 kg = 609 PP. 182 mph, 26.801 seconds standing mile. 6.148 seconds 0-100 mph, 10.847 seconds 1/4 mile. Slightly faster and quicker than average even at a lower PP.

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    3rd, Audi R8 Ultra LM. Aero tweak suddenly cut 5 seconds, fast at maxxed out 615 PP. Standard render of a real car.

    589 HP, 1300 kg = 615 PP. 180 mph, 27.311 seconds standing mile. 6.286 seconds 0-100 mph, 10.896 second 1/4 mile.

    Updated with several versions in GT6 and at least one skin in GT Sport Gr.3. Nice car, feels big and heavy though, as it is at 1300 kg.

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    2nd Place.

    Viper GTS 2nd Place at 615 PP. Excellent all-around, powers through corners with no tail wag, rockets down the straights. Low def Standard render of a real car.

    537 HP, 1222 kg = 615 PP. 184 mph top speed, 27.116 seconds standing mile, 6.441 seconds 0-100 mph, 11.014 seconds 1/4 mile. Faster than average.

    Updated appearance , appears in GT Sport as a GR.3 car. I'd guess Polyphony Digital has used the original Viper program module/class as the base in all subsequent versions.

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    1st Place. The GT by Citroën Race Car '08 .

    A little too fast at 612 PP, the best of the bunch though. Premium render of a make belief car. Updated and appears in GT Sport, looks like still one of the best in the GR.3 bracket.

    585 HP, 1245 kg, 610 PP. 191 mph, 26.328 seconds standing mile. 6.091 seconds 0-100 mph. 10.815 seconds 1/4 mile. Could probably tweak the gearing to match real cars though, VLN SP9 cars do not hit 190 at Döttinger Höhe.

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