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This thread is for people instrested in knowing just how accurate Gran Turismo is compared to real life when it comes to car's performance.
Flinx is a well known driver here in GT planet and he's been doing some comparos with times from Best Motoring. (Best Motoring is a japenese video magazine for those of you who don't know.) Flinx times are very close to the limit and are good enough to be compared with a PRO driver on a real track, the results are below:
Tsukuba Circuit:
Car Best Motoring times ------------------ GT4 (TCS & ASM: off, DFP, MT)
BMW M3 1:09.40 ------------------------ N1: 1´07.3, N2: 1´05.8
N3: 1´03.8, S1: 1´02.4
S2: 1´01.4, S3: 1´00.8
As you can see the M3 is 2 full seconds faster than the real car, this is a lot, specially considering this is a small circuit, N1 tyres are the closest to real life, but still way faster (maybe the tyres aren't entirely to blame on this car?) "S" Tyres offer waaaay too much grip IMO.
NSX - R 1'04"89 ----------------------------------- N1: 1´05.80
(newest model)
Only N1 used for this test (and all tests below), i had always felt that this car performed closer to the real car with N2... lots of inconsistencies here, a car that's slower, and a car that's way faster with even N1, Flinx thinks the drivetrain has strong linfluence in the times.
Subaru STi Spec C 1'05"01 ------------------------------ N1: 1´07.03
Like the NSX-R, i bet this car gets extremley close to it's real life performance with N2 tyres, should be pretty much the same time.
Lancer Evo VIII MR GSR 1'05"45 ------------------------- N1: 1´07.36
Yet another car that should get close to the original performance with N2 tyres.
Honda S2000 1:08.83 ------------------------------- N1: 1´09.21
not sure if the car used in BM is the 2.2 litter or the 2.0 (i'm guessing the 2.2 since it has been out since 2003, also used for Flinx test is the 2.2) yet another car that should get close to the original car's performance with N2 tyres, but N1 is kinda close too.
Mazda RX8 Type S 1'11"300 ---------------------------------- N1: 1´09.74
whoa, yet another car like the M3, which is completley off when compared to the real car... this performance is actually very close to the Mazda Speed RX8, which is the a tuned version from mazda themselves, strong inconsistencies here.
Anyway, this is still a work in progress, more cars (and tracks) will be added as soon as Flinx gets enough free time to run some more tests, but as you can see there are some strong inconsistencies going on... some cars are VERY close to their performance if they use N2 tyres, (using the BMW time difference as a reference, since most cars were ran only using N1.) while others are too fast even with N1.
The intresting thing here is, that the cars that do get close to their performance do it with N2 tyres, while the cars that are "too fast" are even too fast with N1 tyres, more cars and tracks need to betested to confirm this though.
On my personal experience i found the Corvette C5 as being as one of those "too fast" cars... it beats the NSX-R with N2 tyres on both Tsukuba and Nurburgring, something i just know is impossible for the C5. (C6 might beat it on nurburgring.. don't know about Tsukuba since it's a slower track and weight would give the NSX-R the advantage.)
So, that's it for now, i'll update with more cars and tracks as soon as i get more info.
-- Kamus
Flinx is a well known driver here in GT planet and he's been doing some comparos with times from Best Motoring. (Best Motoring is a japenese video magazine for those of you who don't know.) Flinx times are very close to the limit and are good enough to be compared with a PRO driver on a real track, the results are below:
Tsukuba Circuit:
Car Best Motoring times ------------------ GT4 (TCS & ASM: off, DFP, MT)
BMW M3 1:09.40 ------------------------ N1: 1´07.3, N2: 1´05.8
N3: 1´03.8, S1: 1´02.4
S2: 1´01.4, S3: 1´00.8
As you can see the M3 is 2 full seconds faster than the real car, this is a lot, specially considering this is a small circuit, N1 tyres are the closest to real life, but still way faster (maybe the tyres aren't entirely to blame on this car?) "S" Tyres offer waaaay too much grip IMO.
NSX - R 1'04"89 ----------------------------------- N1: 1´05.80
(newest model)
Only N1 used for this test (and all tests below), i had always felt that this car performed closer to the real car with N2... lots of inconsistencies here, a car that's slower, and a car that's way faster with even N1, Flinx thinks the drivetrain has strong linfluence in the times.
Subaru STi Spec C 1'05"01 ------------------------------ N1: 1´07.03
Like the NSX-R, i bet this car gets extremley close to it's real life performance with N2 tyres, should be pretty much the same time.
Lancer Evo VIII MR GSR 1'05"45 ------------------------- N1: 1´07.36
Yet another car that should get close to the original performance with N2 tyres.
Honda S2000 1:08.83 ------------------------------- N1: 1´09.21
not sure if the car used in BM is the 2.2 litter or the 2.0 (i'm guessing the 2.2 since it has been out since 2003, also used for Flinx test is the 2.2) yet another car that should get close to the original car's performance with N2 tyres, but N1 is kinda close too.
Mazda RX8 Type S 1'11"300 ---------------------------------- N1: 1´09.74
whoa, yet another car like the M3, which is completley off when compared to the real car... this performance is actually very close to the Mazda Speed RX8, which is the a tuned version from mazda themselves, strong inconsistencies here.
Anyway, this is still a work in progress, more cars (and tracks) will be added as soon as Flinx gets enough free time to run some more tests, but as you can see there are some strong inconsistencies going on... some cars are VERY close to their performance if they use N2 tyres, (using the BMW time difference as a reference, since most cars were ran only using N1.) while others are too fast even with N1.
The intresting thing here is, that the cars that do get close to their performance do it with N2 tyres, while the cars that are "too fast" are even too fast with N1 tyres, more cars and tracks need to betested to confirm this though.
On my personal experience i found the Corvette C5 as being as one of those "too fast" cars... it beats the NSX-R with N2 tyres on both Tsukuba and Nurburgring, something i just know is impossible for the C5. (C6 might beat it on nurburgring.. don't know about Tsukuba since it's a slower track and weight would give the NSX-R the advantage.)
So, that's it for now, i'll update with more cars and tracks as soon as i get more info.
-- Kamus