Bet you've never seen one of these...

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I bought myself a "new" computer at a surplus store the other day. Unfortunately, it was DOA and is gonna cost me an arm and a leg to get running. But, it was cheap ($15), and I can all but guarantee that you guys won't have seen one of these before.

It's a Digital AlphaStation 200 4/166. Those of you that know what that is can skip this next bit. Digital (aka DEC, Digital Equipment Corporation) was a company that made *very* high end workstations and servers in the 1990s, until they were bought out by HP/Compaq.

They are *not* PCs. They use Digital's own Alpha processor, of their own design, and it is nothing like an x86 CPU (which is what all consumer level CPUs made since the late paleolithic are). It was the world's first 64-bit processor, and is a RISC CPU (most CPUs made today are CISC).

The one in my machine is a 166MHz chip... doesn't sound like much but it has 512kb of on-die cache and another 512kb of on-board cache, and even though it's only 166MHz it will decimate a 400MHz P2.

This particular machine was made in 1995, and was pretty well loaded as far as I can tell. Since it doesn't boot, I can't verify the RAM amount, but if I'm reading the stickers on the SIMMs right it has 384mb of ram, which is the maximum the board could take, and a hell of a lot of RAM for 1995. As far as drives go, it's got 2 1.05GB Quantum SCSI hard disks, a Toshiba CD, and a floppy.

Graphics are handled by a PCI graphics board with a DEC chipset on it, and the machine will run Unix, Linux, Windows NT (3.5, possibly 4.0), VMWare, BSD, and possibly Solaris.

As I've said... this was not a consumer-level machine. It probably sold for around $15k in 1995, and was intended for CAD work, computer animation (like the stuff Pixar does, although SGI is the big name in CGI stuff afaik), and complex simulation modeling.

Some more info on this thing:
http://www5.tsl.uu.se/tsl/computing/migrated_vms_www_server_files/hardware/info/dec/a200.html

And the pics. 28 in total, of disassembly, various components, and reassembly. The only ones that I think really need any explanation is the couple closeups of the power connector on the bottom hard drive, which shows just how little clearance there is between that and the SIMM slots. I damaged a couple clips on the slots getting that thing out. :( Oh, and the laptop is in some of the pics because I was IMing people while I was tearing this thing down.

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bet i have seen one before. bet i have a mate in brisbane who has 4 of them sitting in his junk room doing nothing because they're next to useless anyway ;)
 
I played with DEC wrrkstations, dumb clients and servers when you were playing with toycars mate :) I learned *nix on DEC boxes.. Back then, I didn't care much for them but I've become older and wiser.. We also had them at B&O where I did my apprenticeship - they used them for circuit design and software development...
 
Geeky1
...But, it was cheap ($15),...
It probably sold for around $15k in 1995...

0.1% of it's previous value, after 10 years. My, aren't computers just fabulous investments? :lol:
Cool find, anyway.
 
Nice computer indeed.

I remember drooling over Digital Alpha 266MHz and SGI / Intergraph workstations in college. They were sold for well over $10K while 133MHz CPU were on high end PCs.
 
Flerbizky
I played with DEC wrrkstations, dumb clients and servers when you were playing with toycars mate :) I learned *nix on DEC boxes.. Back then, I didn't care much for them but I've become older and wiser.. We also had them at B&O where I did my apprenticeship - they used them for circuit design and software development...

Heh. I heard about the DECs a few years ago... my Grandfather had a SGI Indigo in the mid '90s (he owns a machine shop) but that's the only contact I'd ever had with workstations like that...

But yeah, I heard about the Alpha CPUs a few years ago, and how efficient they were, and said "holy s**t, I've gotta get me one of these."

jpmontoya[/quote
Nice computer indeed.

I remember drooling over Digital Alpha 266MHz and SGI / Intergraph workstations in college. They were sold for well over $10K while 133MHz CPU were on high end PCs.

Heh. And not only was it packing 2x the raw clockspeed, it was also a 64-bit (yes, just like the A64, PPC970FX (G5), Itanium [of which I've also got a pair around here somwhere] and EMT64 Xeons and P4s) RISC cpu.. 266MHz 64-bit RISC CPU with 512k of on-die cache and 512k of on-board cache vs. 133MHz 32-bit CISC CPU with NO on-die cache and not much on-board cache... Not exactly a fair fight. :D

Oh, and this surplus store has some SGI Indigo 2s and some SUN SPARCstations too... I may pick up one of each of those at some point as well. :D
 
That's pretty slick. A friend of mine had a set of similar computers. He got two of them running Linux and one running DEC Unix. After that I don't believe he ever turned them on again. After all, they're still 10 years old and quite useless. A $500 desktop from Dell would smoke anything from that era, including "super computers".
 
LoudMusic
That's pretty slick. A friend of mine had a set of similar computers. He got two of them running Linux and one running DEC Unix. After that I don't believe he ever turned them on again. After all, they're still 10 years old and quite useless. A $500 desktop from Dell would smoke anything from that era, including "super computers".

heh. This is true. But then, that's not why you buy 10yr old computers anyhow. :D
 
True. Hey, I've got a quad Pentium Pro 166mhz. What's that count for in geek points these days?

EDIT: Let me kick that up a notch. It currently tri-boots. Windows 2000, Mandrake 9, and BeOS 5.
 
Quite a bit... a quad p-pro and/or slot 2 xeon system is on my list of "useless things that i don't need and take up a lot of space but which i want to own anyhow" :D
 
My old high school recieved 10 Silicon Graphics computers as a donation from someone when they first opened up (about 7 years ago - when I started 9th grade). These machines were dual processor and were running something like 800mhz per chip. Sadly, they never once used them after they asked some of my friends to hook them up to a small network. These machines were a few years old when the school got them and still had a value of over $10000 canadian 👍
 
That looks like it was one sweet computer in its time.....quite a huge amount of ram for something so old.....
 
Flerbizky
I played with DEC wrrkstations, dumb clients and servers when you were playing with toycars mate :) I learned *nix on DEC boxes.. Back then, I didn't care much for them but I've become older and wiser.. We also had them at B&O where I did my apprenticeship - they used them for circuit design and software development...

Yeah, Marconi, one of my previous employers, used them for that as well. They were running VAX VMS.
 
GilesGuthrie
Yeah, Marconi, one of my previous employers, used them for that as well. They were running VAX VMS.
Mmmm.. VAX 👍 Back in 1993/1994 (in my B&O period), they had gfx cards capable of 1600x1200 (or something similar) on 21" monitors powerful enough to have an animated aquarium as background...
 
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