Beware, the PlayStation Data Paradox is waiting to shut you down.

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On 19th of this month, to get ahead of a change of isp, I was updating my contacts with my new gmail.
When I got to the ps5, I followed Sony's own on screen directions to update my legacy account email, an account at least 20yrs old, however, instead of just updating it, Sony's system inadvertently closed the account and opened a new one for the new email, with no access to the 3500hrs of GT7 progress that is the backbone of my growing youtube channel, now dead in the water.
I contacted the ironically titled "support" dept, to be told that the account doesn't exist, they can't find it.
I insisted.
They asked for the serial of my first console on the account, I photographed, copied/pasted for accuracy. They said it was wrong, I gave them the ps5 serial, wrong.
They asked for sony transaction id's for my last purchase, it was a free monthly game, why keep that?
I offered them 10yrs of paypal interactions with them, rejected.
I then told them to be sure and gave them online id and sign in id.
They were away for a few minutes, and returned to tell me they had found the account.
Relieved, I asked for a manual recovery link, they refused, telling me it was no longer secure or verified, so couldn't be used, "for my security."

Then, on the 22nd, I find a marketing email from Sony, to gaznazdiak, my online ID for 20yrs, at the email address they refused to use to help me recover from THIER mistake.

Today, I received 3 more emails, from Sony, to gaznazdiak, at my sign in ID address, 2 more marketing of stuff they've cut off my access to, but the kicker for me, was from the billing department, telling me that when the subscription I renewed 2 months ago runs out next year, it will cost me more to have no access to what is legally mine.


On the serial numbers, embarrassingly, it has only just occurred to me; if they couldn't find the account, how did they know the serials were wrong?

Proof they lied to me to get rid of me.

To be perfectly clear, Sony did not cause this problem deliberately, it was simply a database error.
However, their corporate response as delivered by their "support" department, was, and continues to be, a deliberate and egregious abuse of the asymmetric power dynamic they create over their customers.

This is to warn members to be aware of this risk to their own data, and ask if you can spread the word, tag sony on X, Reddit etc.

If they can do it to me they can do it to you
 
What happens when you go to the account recovery page?
 
What happens when you go to the account recovery page?
That was my first stop.

I only discovered this when I went to log in with what I thought was the new log in ID for my legacy account, I got an error message telling me I couldn't log in to "someone else's account", then to the madness above.
 
Sony have a long history of being a complete failure with security. Also a recent history. It's mad that 2FA can be disabled as per the link below.

 
Sony have a long history of being a complete failure with security. Also a recent history. It's mad that 2FA can be disabled as per the link below.

They're certainly experts at defending themselves from customers
 
I changed my email address on one of my long-lived PSN accounts recently. There was no problem.


There's some stuff up there about logging in with the new email address but nothing I can see about the old one. If your old email address is still valid and receiving emails from PlayStation/SIE, what happens if you try logging into the website (not via console) with that old email address and password?
 
I changed my email address on one of my long-lived PSN accounts recently. There was no problem.


There's some stuff up there about logging in with the new email address but nothing I can see about the old one. If your old email address is still valid and receiving emails from PlayStation/SIE, what happens if you try logging into the website (not via console) with that old email address and password?
I get bounced with an incorrect details error at sign in, correct details my end, but whatever their glitch, I'm buggered.
I have lodged official complaints with NSW Fair Trading, and the Federal regulator, the ACCC, for failing to provide a prepaid service; by locking me out and refusing to help me recover it, they are denying me the delivery of what I've been paying them for, for over 20yrs.

But the ironic kicker in this is, they are still using the email they say they can't use, to send me marketing spam, and, got one yesterday, telling me that when the subscription they are blocking me from automatically renews next year, it will cost me more.
 
they are still using the email they say they can't use
So the problem is that your email address is not verified, so they don't want to send a recovery link there?
 
So the problem is that your email address is not verified, so they don't want to send a recovery link there?
No.
The email has been verified for over 10 yrs.
They have been sending me marketing and billing emails, they will not send them to an unverifed and therefore, unsecured address.

Further to this, the new email is also useless, as it is a virgin account, it has access to nothing, so now after this, 3500hrs in GT7, my YouTube channel, all the progress on 73 other titles all gone, and they can fix it with one email, to the address they spam me on, and they continue to hide behind the same script like a broken record.
 
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I get bounced with an incorrect details error at sign in, correct details my end, but whatever their glitch, I'm buggered.
What do you mean by "bounced"?

Are you using this site:


And clicking "sign in" with your old email address? It doesn't give an "incorrect details" error message.
 
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Sorry mate, I should have been clearer, got a lot going on at once here.

When I try to sign in to the consoles, the ps app, or any playstation site with my legacy details, I get "your id or password is wrong"

When I try to sign in to the consoles using the new email, I get "you can't sign in to another players account"

This means, since Sony are still sending billing emails to the legacy account email, expressing the expectation that it will automatically renew in 10 months, that email is still verified.

That is the paradox
 
I should have been clearer
No, I understand what's going on, but your answers make little sense. For example:
I get "your id or password is wrong"
This isn't the message you get off the website either, even with entirely made-up credentials.

Can you try signing in just on the website linked above, with your old email address, and screenshot the result (although you should obscure your email address when you do)?
 
Thanks for your patience,

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And yes, when I try to get a link to reset my password..........it doesn't come.
 
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Okay. Not sure why that says "AI-generated content" on it though...
And yes, when I try to get a link to reset my password..........it doesn't come.
Jumping the gun somewhat, but... you don't get a link to reset your password. There isn't a password reset feature there. The next screen (after "Trouble Signing in?") is "Recover Your Account".

If you're not receiving the account recovery email, there's a screen for that too. It says:

Recover Your Account
If you haven't received an email with a link to recover your account, try the actions below:

Check your spam folder.
Make sure your inbox settings are configured to allow emails from sony@email.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com.
Make sure you're checking the inbox for the email address associated with your account for PlayStation.
Make sure you entered the correct email address for your account.
We'll assume that fourth step is fine.

Also I've just done something slightly unethical as a test, but check your GMail (and ignore it; it won't do anything unless you click on it and it's just a test to see if you receive it).

Edit: Hmm. I can see two "relevant" profiles for your chosen username on PSN. One has trophies for GT5 and GT6 but nothing past PS3 era (but was online three days ago) while the other has quite a lot of time in GT7, was last online four days ago, and has an additional "k" in the username.

Obvious question: if these are both you, are you sure you've changed the email for the right one and are trying to log into the right one?
 
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I used editing ai to remove the address, I darkened it by hand this time, for veracity
I greatly appreciate your efforts

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That's after changing the password "successfully"
 
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