Big cars on tight curves. Need help.

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Yeah so, i have trouble drifting large cars on tight corners.
Explenation; i went out, took the Vantage out on Complex String, recorded the FIRST lap i did with the errors and all. So it would be my "honest" thing and not something i kept doing over and over again untill it was just the way i wanted it to.

What i would like is some info/advices on what i do wrong when it comes to the tighter curves. They arent going good at all.



Thanks in advance guys. And thanks SD for the the advice i got earlier. Rocking. (=
//Eddie.

Video here
 
hmm...im not to good with bigger cars but you seem to be doing fine on the tighter corners...maybe you should try braking later and into the corner for some more angle and stuff....well....im not a expert so i dont really know what im saying here....its what i usually do in tigher corners...or you can e-brake it...
 
Ahh.. Yeah. Dont count in the last chicane in this.. I totally missjudged everything when entering that one..
Thanks MoNkEy_MaGiCx. Tested that one out aswell.. But, no luck..

The settings are pretty "basic". Sims, fully customised everything and around 450 Bhp. Dont think i changed anything from the original settings of the individual parts.
 
well....im not to used to bigger cars, the only "big" cars i have are the supra and the r32 gt-s....my supra just slides all over the place and i pretty much have the same problem as yo with my r32.....maybe try some choku-dori? i used to use that all the time...umm...im not sure what to do...just wait for don or somewone to answer this...
 
i didn't see much errors on the tighter turns...
but what i do with a heavy car is i shift more weight than usual.

what is your problem with tighter turns? understeer? oversteer?

Originally posted by nightkids4ever
does the r34 count as a big car ?
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b4 i even answer that question, please don't post unnecesary questions... and if you do, atleast participate in helping the person who created the thread.

to me, the R34 is a big car.. why?
because of its weight
 
Originally posted by SR20DET
i didn't see much errors on the tighter turns...
but what i do with a heavy car is i shift more weight than usual.
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That's the same advice I gave him, and that brings me to my point.........

That's about the best advice there is, for drifting heavy cars. After that, it just takes seat time, to get used to the differences.........


Furthermore, you cannot expect a Vantage to be able to take a hairpin, in the same way as a lighter car like the S13. Heavy cars are not ideal for drifting, and so are not as capable as lighter cars, in tight corners......


;)
 
Well, it seems like I'm going to be the first to say this but. DANG! That was some pretty nice drifting. Just had to say it. LOL!
 
my chaser is stock weight and i have no problems drifting tracks like cote de azur or ssr11 with it... with bigger sized cars you need to learn just how much track space you have before the ass of ur tank hits the curb...with heavier cars earlier braking and drift initiation is nessicary...as the cars weight is enough to send you off the track with a late drift entry.
 
Originally posted by silviadrifter
Furthermore, you cannot expect a Vantage to be able to take a hairpin, in the same way as a lighter car like the S13. Heavy cars are not ideal for drifting, and so are not as capable as lighter cars, in tight corners......
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enough said...
 
problems? what problems?

heh, i agree with Shadow Drifter, that was pretty good, particularily for a first take

i usually cant take that section of squared off 90 degree bends as well as that in a smaller car on the first try. Forget about doing it in a boat like the Vantage :eek:

*TankSpanker goes and practices on Complex String*
 
Originally posted by silviadrifter
That's the same advice I gave him, and that brings me to my point.........

That's about the best advice there is, for drifting heavy cars. After that, it just takes seat time, to get used to the differences.........


Furthermore, you cannot expect a Vantage to be able to take a hairpin, in the same way as a lighter car like the S13. Heavy cars are not ideal for drifting, and so are not as capable as lighter cars, in tight corners......


;)
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i donno sd, id have to disagree partially ont his one. my heavier cars are quite equally capable of the tights as my lighter cars are. the only difference to me is the quickness and agility of the car. lighter cars snap into place while heavier cars require more timing input. all in all i say heavier cars are just as capable as lighter cars, if not more. a skilled driver can use the weight and momentum of a larger cars size to much of an advantage in the art of drift. through skilled manipulation of balance, inertia, and throttle...a heavy car could out drift a lighter car.
 
u could try tapping the reverse in place of the e-brake but ur gonna need a bit of speed
 
you arnt wrong, its the cars.

big cars have big torque therefore loose traction quickly under acceleration on realy low gear corners a technique that ocasionally works, is to take slughtly more speed in to the corner use the cars weight transfer (feint, or e-brake)to naturally slide around the corners then mid corner ****-lock (downshift) to extend the slide and maybe feather the throttle to further extend the drift, or change direction

its also useful if you acidentally overspeed into a corner.
the above is not directed at you but anyone who is reading this who does have difficulty with cars that have a lot of torque.

but i canot see what you think you are having difficulty with, thumbs up:)
 
Originally posted by Shadow Drifter
Well, it seems like I'm going to be the first to say this but. DANG! That was some pretty nice drifting. Just had to say it. LOL!
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I have to agree.:eek: :eek: :eek: wow.
 
Originally posted by F.Zamataki
i donno sd, id have to disagree partially ont his one. my heavier cars are quite equally capable of the tights as my lighter cars are. the only difference to me is the quickness and agility of the car. lighter cars snap into place while heavier cars require more timing input. all in all i say heavier cars are just as capable as lighter cars, if not more. a skilled driver can use the weight and momentum of a larger cars size to much of an advantage in the art of drift. through skilled manipulation of balance, inertia, and throttle...a heavy car could out drift a lighter car.
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Once again you have completely misinterpretted what I have posted:

Furthermore, you cannot expect a Vantage to be able to take a hairpin, in the same way as a lighter car like the S13. Heavy cars are not ideal for drifting, and so are not as capable as lighter cars, in tight corners......
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You cannot take a vantage around a hairpin in the same manner as an S13. You have to make all your inputs earlier, which is a disadvantage. It is possible to make it apear like you are drifting a heavy car in the same manner as a light car, but in reality, you are fighting against the weight of the car. Finally, don't try to tell me that the weight helps you drift, because that's nonsense. Technique is what should be used to break traction (regardless of weight), and then once traction is broke, a lighter car, will have the capacity to drift further, then a big heavy car........ That my friend, is a fact, and if you don't believe me, go ahead and study physics for a while, then you'll know..........

I like drifting heavy cars, because it is a challenge, and some of the heavy cars are just too beautiful to leave alone. It's fun, but I don't hold any misconceptions about their capabilities...........


;)
 
Originally posted by silviadrifter


and if you don't believe me, go ahead and study physics for a while, then you'll know..........

I like drifting heavy cars, because it is a challenge, and some of the heavy cars are just too beautiful to leave alone. It's fun, but I don't hold any misconceptions about their capabilities...........
;)
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agreed, i dont know why more people dont think of drifting in a scientific way (the takahashi brothers anyone:lol: )

but seriously, i am a computer aided design engineer and have studied, statics, dynamics, frictions and aerodynamics, and i think of these things when drifting and get a better idea of what the vehicle is doing.:eek:

and i know what you mean about the luxury cars:lol: chaufeur drifting the wealthy dutchess in a very large mercedes:D cool,
later man.
 
What i can say is.. Thanks SD (and Thio, thanks bro) for the advice and all.. Getting more flow through the curves now but i guess what u say it partially true.. Bid cars look better on big curves.. Or not.. :| Been out clubbing last night and this is the first time the internet has been workin properly for theh last five day..
Thanks guys.. And peace.

/A martienied guy from sweden.
 
Yeah, big cars can look really cool sideways............

I love the look of the Chaser sideways........


;)
 

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