BJ Killed My Computer

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I recently blew the dust out of my computer and killed it. It was one of the strangest outcomes to what is said to be an important maintenance step. Well it had been a rather long time between bj’s for my computer, when I opened it up and looked inside it was lights and sirens. The dust was everywhere and it was deep. I couldn’t imagine that those little compressed air cans would stand a chance so I took her out to my work shop for the big air experience. When I hit the trigger on the air nozzle all hell broke loose I had to dive for the particle mask and eye protection. After about 2 or 3 minutes I started making some headway and could see all those expensive gadgets that I so carefully installed 2 years ago. Dust was in every crack and crevice, it had super glued to every fan blade of every one of the five fans, so I letum have it and those things never spun so fast (probably not the smartest thing to do) I kind of got carried away and then I hit the power supply. It was like a dust bomb exploded, with out pulling it out and carefully revealing it’s tender innards and using some discretion I let her fly. I finally got all the evil out of my big box and back to the house to fire her up and once again experience the joys of modern technology.

When I fired it up I didn’t get any video feed to my monitor. I was blind and couldn’t see anything happening from my baby. I heard all kinds of fan activity but nothing on the screen, I knew I was in trouble. The obvious call would be that the video card was bad but that was a stretch. So I focused in on the power supply, I knew it was a cheep one that I paid only about 50 bucks for when the good ones were twice that much. So from my other post where I had been trying to brainstorm on how to crank this thing to the max, I figured that if it was the video card well no biggie it was going to get replaced anyway.

I needed to know for sure that the PS was the culprit. I got a suggestion from a forum member on how to interrogate the PS but mine was a 24 pin ATX and not a 20 pin. I needed the exact road map to the main power connection to the MOBO. I found the manual for the MOBO so I was at least confident that I had the correct power distribution for the PS. I read the link that “nick09” provided and the one thing that jumped out at me was that the fan on the PS had to be running when the connector was attached to the MOBO and the power was provided to it. This is where my inexperience shows its self. Nothing I read told me that the main power on the front on the box had to be turned on or not, so I tried it both ways. The fan wouldn’t turn on either way but when I would turn on the computer all the fans except the one on the PS would turn on.

Everything sounded good when the fans were on but that was just a placebo not knowing if there was any power going to the MOBO. I started probing the main connection and couldn’t find any power there, so I took my VOM out to the car and made sure that the thing was reading 12v DC correctly and it was. I returned to the problem child and probed her again and still nothing. I probed it w/ the computer off and the little switch in the back of the PS turned to the on position and got nothing. I probed it with the computer on and listening to my 5 fans and the CPU fan spinning and still nothing.

So to make a conclusion from a novice computer problem investigator my best guess is that the new ANTEC 650w PS is the correct call. If anyone wants to add their 2 cents before I open the box and commit to owning the thing it would be greatly appreciated……. Thanks

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I'll copypasta this from somewhere else:

Myself
Don't screw around when it comes to power supplies. Find one with an online review that used an oscilloscope and an active load tester to test it, and only buy one that passes such a review. I'm serious. I can provide a list of websites that review power supplies correctly that you can hunt through to find a PSU that fits your needs, but it will take a bit of time to get it together. As a rule, treat all power supplies as crap unless proven otherwise, especially ones that come bundled with cases.
 
Thanks Toronado I know that power supplys are a blind sided purchase and I think I understand your post, so I guess I'll hold off on opening up my new Antec EA-650 PS.
 
Thanks Toronado I know that power supplys are a blind sided purchase and I think I understand your post, so I guess I'll hold off on opening up my new Antec EA-650 PS.
I looked up the model. It passed a test on JonnyGURU, so it shouldn't give you any problems.
 
Well, to be frank, using a shop air hose to blow dust out of the power supply probably wasn't a very good idea. :lol:

That being said, what might have happened is that you might have blown a capacitor off of the PCB inside the PSU. If I'm reading your OP correctly, the PSU is providing power to everything except through the ATX socket, yes?
 
Yah I can't get anything from the connector but a reference to a logic circuit that allows the PS fan to initiate is my biggest question. If the fan isn’t running I’m afraid that it might not be jumpering pin 14 and 15 to tell the PS that the connector is in fact connect and thusly not turning the fan on. To go totally conspiratorially does the same logic circuit that turns the fan on control the power to be released to the connector? Therefore that might be why I’m not picking up power at the connector, AKA did I "F" the MOBO? :nervous:
 
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Using an industrial air compressor, perhaps you generated enough static electricity to break it. Happens when people try to vacuum the dust out all the time.
 
Ah man after I saw the thread title I was expecting a much more interesting story.
 
^ Same, I thought he was watching too much porn and his computer fried. But dude, thats a helluva lot of dust! :O
 
Sounds like one hell of a BJ. I've gotta say, if you have to go - that's probably the way to go.
 
Most air compressors self lubricate with oil (that lasts a long time) that blows through the line but at small quantities and barely visually noticeable. Not sure of yours exactly but it is always a thought when I use compressors to clean electronics.
 
^ Same, I thought he was watching too much porn and his computer fried. But dude, thats a helluva lot of dust! :O

I have worked on computers with much more than that and it also had spider webs in the case. I have also seen a computer that was ten years old and the case only had a thin layer of dust and a web inside. Though it's best to stay away from air compressors and small vacuums if you want to clean the case. You can also use Q-tips to clean the heatsinks.
 
I have worked on computers with much more than that and it also had spider webs in the case. I have also seen a computer that was ten years old and the case only had a thin layer of dust and a web inside. Though it's best to stay away from air compressors and small vacuums if you want to clean the case. You can also use Q-tips to clean the heatsinks.
Nevermind the dust - it'd be pretty creepy if there was a spider inside my PC! :scared:
 
Well today I’m going to crack out my new PS and change her out w/ my fingers crossed that my determination was the correct one, so thanks to everyone for their input and humorous responses to my rather some what provocative title… lol

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Nevermind the dust - it'd be pretty creepy if there was a spider inside my PC! :scared:

Yeah if you keep the case on the ground and don't clean it for years. It's very possible that a spider can make a nest inside. It would be perfect because it's nice and toasty for those spider eggs to hatch.

@LeftyWright69: Good luck. If not then you would have to build another computer.
 
This is an good example of how dusty a computer can get after a very long time. In 5 to 10
years your computer can look like this:
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It's a good idea to clean them every year, even laptops.
 
I do mine every 3 months. It's quite bad then!

I do use an air compressor, albeit at about 20 PSI, if that.
 
THAT POOR COMPAQ....tsk tsk tsk....
EWWW that looks so custy. Looks like someone took the biggest crap of their life on it.
 
I would like to say to everyone that gave me the confidence to go boldly into the PSU question as well as avoid the video card possible side track culprit, I can most gratefully say that “MY BABY LIVES” and give you all my most heartfelt SCREEM “THANK YOU” it was the PSU. Weeeeeeeeeeee

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It's good to hear that your computer is up and running again. And yes you better not weeeeee on it.:lol:

Hay nick if you see this, I added the new processor, man it sure is cool to see the properties showing 3.2 GHz, and the extra ram I added should have given my system 4 Gig and it only shows 3. What could I have done wrong?
 
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Yes my system is 32bit

Antec P180 full tower case
MSI K9N SLI Platinum NVIDIA Socket AM2 ATX Motherboard
new AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 6400+
Corsair RAM XMS2 TWIN 2X2048-6400
new aditional Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
I added 2 more Gig and it only shows 3 total
Geforce 9400 GT
Seagate Barracuda 7200.1 SATA HD
Sony DRU-835A Optical Drive
Netgear WN311T Range Max Next 802.11n Wireless-N PCI Adapter
ATI-TV Wonder PRO - TV tuner ( pci )
OS XP SP3
and my new Antec EA-650 PSU
 
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