Brake calibration in GT Sport (yet again) and brake mod questions for T-LCM

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by peterrod, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. peterrod

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    Hi all,

    I think that braking inconsistency is holding me back a little bit since it's really difficult to gauge the brake pressure in this game. I use the Thrustmaster T3PA pedals with the conical mod and I've seen plenty of other threads where people cut it off or modify the mod itself but I don't particularly want to do that. To those of you who are fast and consistent with braking, and use T3PA (Pro) pedals, do you use the mod or just to distance-based braking with the potentiometer?

    I'm currently waiting for the T-LCM pedals to be delivered next week, but I'm concerned that the same problem will arise because the game recalibrates brake pressure whenever you brake harder than the hardest you had braked up to that point. I know that braking hard when you first start a race calibrates the pedal, but if you panic-brake or slam the brakes harder, that will be your new 100% and the next lap the braking reference points will not be the same. The whole point of having a load cell is to improve braking but it seems like in GT Sport this is not a possibility. Does this mean that all the World Tour players just use normal potentiometer braking?

    Also, has anyone used this kind of mod to replicate the feel of hydraulic braking with any of the load cell pedals out there? I'm tempted to buy it but I'd like to hear opinions from other people who may have used this kind of thing before if it really improves the feel, especially when you already have a load cell.

    https://www.apexv2r.com/products/ap...ustmaster-t-lcm-pedals?variant=31489697775710
     
  2. superwally

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    I have a Ricmotech load cell in a similar set of pedals. It was impossible to use with no 'hard' calibration, so I drilled holes through the brake pedal chassis and installed a cross bolt at the point where I wanted the pedal to absolutely stop. It was trial and error with pedal travel, firmness, and making sure braking would hit 100% before the pedal stopped. Crude, but effective.
     
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  3. Leggacy

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    The rubber cone mod works really well once you’ve added a hard stop. Yes it requires a little bit of modification, drilling a hole and adding a bolt but it’s totally worth it.
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    I have a different rubber cone under there now, a vibration isolator cost £1.50 works a lot better than that yellow one
     
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  4. peterrod

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    Thanks for the suggestions and the picture, very helpful. I guess the load cell from the T-LCM will be a no go for gt sport then. That's sad. I really hope that PD puts in proper brake calibration for the next game.
     
  5. Leggacy

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    The thing with just the cone is that when you press harder it can re-calibrate the max position. Adding the stop takes away the guess work it makes braking much more consistent
     
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  6. ststav01

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    I think that the way GT Sport works with braking is a total joke.... it is definitely not reliable to recalibrate the pedal every time you slam on the brakes. There was a case where I really hit hard the brake pedal (didn't know about the recalibration) and on the next lap when I started applying the "usual" force to the pedal I went off really bad :) Good to know other people have problems with this as well - it makes the use of loadcell totally useless in such scenario (except for real immersion, rather than having a rubber imitating the stiffening feel of the pedal)

    P.S. Im using G29 pedals and started thinking if it is going to be better and more consistent for me to remove the rubber from the brake - the only problem then would be getting used to the 25% of deadzone when I hit the end travel of the brake
     
  7. Groundfish

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    People who say a load cell is useless in gts are dead wrong.
    The guys who use a hard stop have it dialed and csl load cell works fabulous.
    Once you know what quiet braking is and how to adjust to achieve it you’re set.
    Tbh I think maybe 80-90 percent of folks incorrectly understand how those work or how to optimally adjust things. Jmo

    There’s a lot to coming OFF the pedal right to balance the car in gts that needs to be appreciated. Way more time to be gained getting to more throttle getting power down earlier and harder on exit based on coming off pedal than anything imo.
     
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  8. peterrod

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    The CSL load cell is fine because you can change the settings on the wheel itself I think (I used to have the CSV1 pedals), but with thrustmaster or logitech there is no option to adjust the settings directly on the wheel (only in PC), so the pedals will just go all the way and that is what GTS will detect. There is no way around it with these two brands in GT Sport.
     
  9. Donnced

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    Thrustmaster said that they will provide the wheels and players of the world tours with the New Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals.
    So they should work properly with GT Sport...
    Don't forget that Thrustmaster is also the official wheel brand of the game

    BTW some settings form the Thrustmaster control panel setted on PC stays "saved" in the wheel.
    So surely that some settings for the load cell setted on PC will also stay saved for PS4

    Edit:

    I let here 2 videos of a very well known simracer in Spain

    In the first video he test the Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals with the out of box settings in GT sport,F1 game, assetto corsa and iracing without ABS to try out the load cell.

    In the second video he harderd the springs (red one above,black one below) recommended to him by an professional driver and test it out in a daily race of GT sport.





    He really likes the feeling of the pedals and says that it's really worthy in this price range
     
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  10. GerseyCX

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    I installed the TLCM pedals on Saturday. I can confirm not only do they work on GT Sport they work very well.
     
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