Braking after switching lower gear

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Hi all,

Greetings, am a new member here :)

I've just started GT3 for about a month ever since I got my PS2.

Previously I was playing GT1 on full Auto and never bother to learn about manual gear :D

However I promise myself I will pick up Manual Gear once I played GT3.

A query, if I have to switch my gear from say 5 to 3 for a corner. Do I have to switch it to 3 directly, then brake straight to the correct speed?

Or do I switch to 4 first, brake, then 3, brake?

Also, I noted that GT3 has a Gear value (example 4->3) on the gear readings upon reaching corners. Is that always the optimal gear to switch to?

Boy am I a manual gear idiot :banghead:

Thanks for any help! :)
 
if u brake and change directly to 3 rd gear i will hit the rev limiter and u will crash into the wall if yourt a noob at manual so instead use the other one ...brake change break and accelerate
 
Brake then down shift, and if the engine is bouncing off the rev limiter then you are doing it too fast. Also you have to go through each gear, you can't really skip gears in GT3.
 
What you'll find is that if you change down too fast, you'll be above the rev limiter in the lower gear. In this instance, GT3 will hold the clutch disengaged, and you'll effectively be freewheeling until you slow down enough. Thus your braking effort will be reduced.

Don't worry too much, you'll soon work it out for each car.
 
Yea, brake first and then switch, not only does this help with everything already mentioned, but it will also help with your end gear selection.

If you switch down too far too quickly you will lose time, but if you switch down as you brake/after you brake, you will be less likely to go into a gear that is too low.

When your in too low of a gear, hitting the gas does nothing...
Atleast if you end up in too high a gear you will get a lil bit of acceleration.

And remember, you might end up in too high a gear if your not consistant about down shifting when your braking, so remember to learn to work these two together naturally.

Youll get it soon enough and then it will be natural.
 
Welcome, Shinden!

That little red gear number is the suggested gear for the next corner. It's not always correct, but usually it is the right gear. You can decide when to ignore it and when to listen.

Also, that red number will flash as you approach a corner. That is the suggested braking point.

As others have said, brake first, then downshift. There is no need to stop braking while you shift; just hold the brakes steady and downshift as the revs fall.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
Welcome, Shinden!

As others have said, brake first, then downshift. There is no need to stop braking while you shift; just hold the brakes steady and downshift as the revs fall.
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right that's what i ment
 
Thank God! Another member that understands sentence structure and punctutation!


I dont think I can handle anymore 10 line run-on sentences.
 
12sec. It's amazing since most of the people with poor punctuation and grammar are english speakers. But people who speak english as there second language are often the best 'typers' here at GTP..

Welcome to GTP shinden!!
 
Well hey, I am an American and I don't speak or type with improper grammar.

I think that it's a thing of the individual.

I just noticed what you guys said and had to comment because of the other board I am a member at.

Its the otakuboards and they are big time against spam and improper grammar.

When I first started there it was nothing but crap typing from me... now it's nothing but quality. (atleast I hope)

I still wanna stress that as you progress with your manual shifting skills, you will eventually learn a sense of how to naturally shift up and down without conscience thought.

Good luck and remember that practice always makes you better.
 
Wow, thanks for the helpful replies and warm welcomes :)

So I have been doing it all wrong, got to brake first then down shift. No wonder most of the time my car went out of control.

I presume that if I want to down from say Gear 5 to Gear 3, I will just keep holding on to brake and down shifting till I hit Gear 2 is it?

As for the Red indicator, thanks for the explanation, neon_duke.

And yes, English is my second language so hope I've not type too badly :D

Thanks again!
 
Originally posted by Shinden
I presume that if I want to down from say Gear 5 to Gear 3, I will just keep holding on to brake and down shifting till I hit Gear 2 is it?
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Yes, but you said "till I hit gear 2" I think you might've meant gear 3.
 
Originally posted by Shinden
I presume that if I want to down from say Gear 5 to Gear 3, I will just keep holding on to brake and down shifting till I hit Gear 2 is it?
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You mean "till I hit Gear 3 is it?" right? Yes just downshift.

A lot of people don't know WHAT gears are... if you don't I can explain it to you. :)

I'm not trying to insult you, or anyone's intelligence, but to play GT3 without computer help you've got to have an understanding of how cars work. Manual transmission is one of those things. The player has to understand what gears are, and it really surprises me how many people don't understand the concept.

What I'm trying to say is, the mechanics of how you do something won't matter unless you understand the concept.

I could tell you "brake then shift", but that means nothing.

So I'll say something meaningful:

- What you want to do is always keep the engine spinning (rpm) in the range of the engine's maximum power ("powerband"). This range is usually from 5000rpm+ all the way to redline, and will vary with engine spec.

- Now as you brake, the car slows down, and the engine will also slow down. When your engine slows down to the point where it has fallen out of the powerband (for example, less than 5000rpm), the you will want to downshift to the next lower gear. At the lower "gear ratio", the engine will now be spinning faster at the given speed, and should be in the powerband.

- As you slow down and the engine again is out of the powerband, downshift again.

- The point is, keep the engine in the powerband! Whether this is upshift, downshift, downshifting 3 times in rapid succession, whatever! The point is to keep the engine in the powerband! (argh, broken record, lol)

Now to your original question about HOW this is done. Easy. Watch the tachometer. When you see the needle drop below the powerband during braking, then downshift. As you play more and more, you'll be able to do this very easily and very naturally. You'll eventually be able to shift by listening to the engine.

So there's the concept. The mechanics of it stem from that. Good luck! :)
 
Oops! Sorry silly typo of mine. Yep it should be from Gear 5 -> 3.

Thanks for the detail explanation Jammer :) I kinda understand more about the gears now.

Off I go to GT3 for practise now heh heh :D
 

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