british cars are the best!!!!!

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is it me or are the british cars in gt3 kick ass. i think exluding the dodge viper and the esperante gt-1 most of the american cars are naff. Japan has got some class but lotus jaguar and aston martin do it for me the most.
 
Nah most things British since the Beatles are crap. American Muscle is the only way to drive. You just need to master it. ie the GT 40.
 
Originally posted by Raptor13x
As long as the engine is in the middle I am happy :D I dont care where it comes from, but if the engine is in the front, it sucks
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What kind of eurotrash dribble is this? FR cars rule the road. Sure the lemans cars are MR, but they dont count because it invalidates my arguement.

FR tradition has such amazing entries as The Viper, Corvette, Mustang, NASCAR, Vanquish, M5, M3, All the A and F-Bodies ever made.

What good cars are ther with Mid Engines, the old VW bug?

I'm kidding of course, but Mid engine cars are great, but way to expensive to be a reality for me for quite a while. There are plenty of amazing FR cars on the road.
 
Actually, at the moment I think that the Japanese are creating just about the best of everything.
For my tastes overall though, I love american muscle cars from the late 60's and early 70's. The look, the feel, the power, everything.
Currently we are going for a return to the roadster style which has brought about such quality cars as the PT cruiser (bleah) That and SUV's dominate. I'd love to see the Skyline hit the US. It might not move like a Viper, but it costs half as much and handles twice as well (And it's not even the best handling car they have to offer.)
Forgive me if I choose a car that had an extra $5000 placed into more advanced suspension, or perhaps Perfection of the Rotary engine over a Mahogany Dashboard.
 
the old bug is not a mid engine car it is a rear engine rear wheel drive, trust i would know i own one, the old bug is just like most porsches rear engine rear wheel drive
 
Originally posted by Tom McDonnell
Actually, at the moment I think that the Japanese are creating just about the best of everything.
I'd love to see the Skyline hit the US. It might not move like a Viper, but it costs half as much and handles twice as well
Forgive me if I choose a car that had an extra $5000 placed into more advanced suspension, or perhaps Perfection of the Rotary engine over a Mahogany Dashboard.
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I'm not sure where you got this junk from, but Skylines cost a LOT more than a Viper. A Viper GTS goes for under 70,000, and a 1999 skyline GT-R Vspec goes for $89,500. The non Vspec is like 85,000. They dont use rotary engines either. The Skyline has a 2.5L v6, and the Viper has an 8 Liter V-10.

A viper will do a 1/4 mile in 12.2 as opposed to a skylines 13.7
0-60? Viper 4.0, Skyline 5.2 seconds.
As for handling, a viper can beat 1 lateral G on the skid pad while the Skyline pulls .89 G

These are road and track numbers (feb 99 skyline, oct 97 viper)

There is a big aftermarket for BOTH cars. And they are both fine automobiles. The fact is, a stock viper will mop the floor with a stock skyline. I would hazard a guess that if you spent an equal amount of money on each, you wouldn't see a skyline beat a viper by much.

Personally, I'd love to see the rotary engine make a comeback, but the RX-8 is just ugly. I saw it at the hotwheels car show this year and BLAH!
 
Hey there Bri Bri, I'm not quite sure where you recieved your info, but 5,290,000 yen at the currunt Exchange rate of .008324 yen per US dollar (As lifted from x-rates.com) translated out to $44,033 and 96 cents. This is for the V-spec.
My japanese is a bit more than rusty but as my best estimate from the Nissan of Japan website, I believe that the 2001 Skyline begins at 3,250,000 yen or $27,053 Base. (my japanese is horrible actually, but my friend is halfway decent despite being Korean.)
I also seem to remember reading a few months ago that Nissan was toying with the idea of bringing the skyline GT-R in 2002 or 2003 in a very limited release. Retailing around $50,000.
My friends cousin is visiting his parents in Korea for the summer, I'll see if he has an e-mail address there, to find out how much it is retailing for over there.
Oh, and so I don't cheat, to 5,290,000 yen is the 98. I figure the 99 is in the same arena, despite being a different model. I don't want to mislead anyone.
 
The majority of my favorite cars are European. I think their history, passion, and performance is hard to beat.
 
I agree Jordan european cars have the best history mainly cause the car was invented in europe, and also no American or Japanese cars come close to the Italian and German and to some extent English Supercars that have been built.
 
There is only ONE Bristish car th\at could beat an Italian car and there is acctually only ONE of them in existance and thats the ORIGINAL XJ220

By ORIGINAL i mean the 1st one built which was never made in production because Ford wanted to tone the car down a little.

I mean the 4WD V12 6.2 litre engine XJ220

now that would be the ONLY competition to a Lamborghini Diablo and Ferrari F40 or F50

Though now i feel the best cars are German they have the Mclaren F1(BMW) Porsche 911GT1 and the Mercedes GT1
 
i dont agree, british cars are good i.e. TVR Speed 12. but i have to agree with all the people that wrote AMERICAN MUSCLE!!!! american cars rule all. For instance. Acura NSX vs. TVR Cerebra vs. Viper GTS. we know that Acura is an American car company but its parent company is Honda so the NSX is a japanese car. The NSX costs nearly if not over 100,000 dollars if u get the many options it comes with. The Viper with all the options costs less than 90,000 and it has an 8.0 liter V-10 engine compared to the NSX's vtec V-6. The Cerebra costs over 100,000 and has either a V6 or a V8.



so lets recap: Viper wins costlessness, hp, engine size and most of all ITS AMERICAN.


p.s. all TVR's are illegal in the US due to TVR not giving the US government enough cars to do crash testing with
 
Originally posted by PreternaturalTerror
There is only ONE Bristish car th\at could beat an Italian car and there is acctually only ONE of them in existance and thats the ORIGINAL XJ220
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I dont know, I've seen some tvrs that could whoop a fiat back to the stone age
 
Originally posted by Tom McDonnell
Hey there Bri Bri, I'm not quite sure where you recieved your info, but 5,290,000 yen at the currunt Exchange rate of .008324 yen per US dollar (As lifted from x-rates.com) translated out to $44,033 and 96 cents. This is for the V-spec.
My japanese is a bit more than rusty but as my best estimate from the Nissan of Japan website, I believe that the 2001 Skyline begins at 3,250,000 yen or $27,053 Base. (my japanese is horrible actually, but my friend is halfway decent despite being Korean.)
I also seem to remember reading a few months ago that Nissan was toying with the idea of bringing the skyline GT-R in 2002 or 2003 in a very limited release. Retailing around $50,000.
My friends cousin is visiting his parents in Korea for the summer, I'll see if he has an e-mail address there, to find out how much it is retailing for over there.
Oh, and so I don't cheat, to 5,290,000 yen is the 98. I figure the 99 is in the same arena, despite being a different model. I don't want to mislead anyone.
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Exchange rates have changed significantly
http://exchanges.barchart.com/cme/cmewjy.htm
The japanese yen has crashed in the past few years, so Yeah, around 50k is probabally more accurate assuming US dollars taken to japan and converted. But try to GET one for that. take a look at http://www.skylinegtr.com/frameset.htm under stock. The 99's are selling for almost 90k.

I dont know where you found out the 5.2 million yen price tag, but the ones that I see all say 85-89k USD
 
come on now, we all know the viper is the best... its just the car you have to have... even if you don't use it to much, you know its sitting in your garage... just has that american spirt that everyone needs, and loves. :cool:
 
Though now i feel the best cars are German they have the Mclaren F1(BMW) Porsche 911GT1 and the Mercedes GT1 [/B][/QUOTE]

Actually the engine of the Mclaren is BMW's but the rest of the car is Mclaren. BMW did not help with the design of the car just the engine.
 
The brittish automobile industry has been flagging for a while now but every now and again we pump out a goody.

First off a lot of you guys are comparing cars that are in totally different classes.....

Anyway, A few guys at work have recently bought TVR's, and they sound SO sweet. You certainly hear them pulling up in the morning.

Aston Martin were the greatest producer of the spiders and roadsters in the "old days". And the Vanquish is verrrrry nice.


Can't deny though, everyone loves the viper!!
 
Originally posted by BrianCNorton



Exchange rates have changed significantly
http://exchanges.barchart.com/cme/cmewjy.htm
The japanese yen has crashed in the past few years, so Yeah, around 50k is probabally more accurate assuming US dollars taken to japan and converted. But try to GET one for that. take a look at http://www.skylinegtr.com/frameset.htm under stock. The 99's are selling for almost 90k.

I dont know where you found out the 5.2 million yen price tag, but the ones that I see all say 85-89k USD
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I get what you mean now (as far as the exhorbitant price is concerned), but trying to compare a specially imported car( and modified to be street legal), versus what it will actually cost when distibuted en masse, is going to be different.
What I really want to know is how much of a hit to the HP it is going to take when it hits US shores, when it is forced into US Emissions standards.
 
whats with all this dodge viper bull****. the cars is crap. The tvr cerbera retails at around £40 thousand and is the fastest production car in the world doing a stock mile in a shade over 30 seconds while the dodge viper came last with a time of 33.5 seconds. Even a 400 kilo 2 litre vauxhall beat it. Oh yeah this didn't include italian supercars such as masseratti, ferrari or lambo cos they arn't classed as production cars.
 
That's interesting....my viper handles a lot better than my tvr ever would like to handle. My Viper GTS-R Concept crushes my TVR Speed12 and it will always remain that way.

"Oh yeah this didn't include italian supercars such as masseratti, ferrari or lambo cos they arn't classed as production cars."

Not only are they NOT production cars, there not even in the game. :thatsodd:
 
Originally posted by boyracer
whats with all this dodge viper bull****. the cars is crap. The tvr cerbera retails at around £40 thousand and is the fastest production car in the world doing a stock mile in a shade over 30 seconds while the dodge viper came last with a time of 33.5 seconds. Even a 400 kilo 2 litre vauxhall beat it. Oh yeah this didn't include italian supercars such as masseratti, ferrari or lambo cos they arn't classed as production cars.
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Well, if you would provide a link it would be helpful.
What is a "Stock mile"
Does it suprise you that a 400Kg 2.0 could beat a 1600kg 8.0?

Sounds like you have big block envy...
 

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