If you guys want a decent challenge to tide you 'till GT4, Burns Rally is the one. I was sceptical even after pretty decent reviews, but it's the best racing game of 2004 so far. It really does have the realism especially with the wheel! I am super harsh in my opinion of racing games in general but this is the third best racing game of my (extensive) collection after the GT series and GP Legends. It's not even worth comparing to McRae which is excellent in it's own right but an arcade game by comparison.