Can Anyone beat the Elise?

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Has anyone been able to beat the Lotus Elise in any race it shows up in (not using an Elise, of course)?? I recently turned the AI back on, and I haven't been able to find a single car that I can beat the Elise in, besides the Elise. Has anyone managed to pull this feat off?
 
I can beat it with the Tegra Type R, i'd like to see you try to beat it in the Eunos Roadster/MX-5.
 
Well the only circuit I can see you having a chance is Tskuba. I would give this a go, but i've been strapped for free time at the moment.

I'm sure you'll be able to do it.
 
Had a few goes ... with street tires it was a breeze ... :D but with normal tires its harder. I have 3.7 seconds on him by the final split but on the straight he still gets me before the finish. However, it does look doable. (this at Fuji)
 
Just beat the Elise 190 in an Integra Type R 98 Spec. Normal tyres, MT with 2.035 Seconds to spare at the 2nd attempt. Now where's that MX5!

:p
 
Originally posted by Sven
The MX-5 Miata is called the Eunos Roadster 1.6 in GT4P.

Tsukuba was easy enough. Now try New York :eek:

The problem here is that the Elise is a lot faster, but it then waits for me at approximately 1 second ahead of me. If you get the final section of turns and the almost circle turn really well, you should gain a lot of time on him, and I suspect it may just be enough, but I'm not sure how far the line is from the last turn. That's really important, because on the straight he wins on you like mad.
 
Hi Everybody,
Can anybody help me out with my little dilemma please. I can quite happily beat the Elise over a 5 lap race at Tsukuba, but I am really struggling at New York. I have also found that during Purple lesson 31 whilst watching the demo the pursuit car cannot even get anywhere near the Gold medal time of 2:40, never mind beat it. I would consider myself a reasonable driver but NYC in Prologue......... another matter!!

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I just whooped his ass at New York...But I think it was more because he got hung up on the icepick than because I pwned him. That seems to be a fairly regular AI glitch, where they get hung up and just stop right after turn 1 at New York...
 
Originally posted by stepomfret
Hi Everybody,
Can anybody help me out with my little dilemma please. I can quite happily beat the Elise over a 5 lap race at Tsukuba, but I am really struggling at New York. I have also found that during Purple lesson 31 whilst watching the demo the pursuit car cannot even get anywhere near the Gold medal time of 2:40, never mind beat it. I would consider myself a reasonable driver but NYC in Prologue......... another matter!!

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Yes, the NYC track isn't so easy it looks like.. I can't give any big tricks because there aren't any but try taking early apex in every corner that has long straight after it so you can maximize your overall speed and another corner where you can save some time is the last 270 degree corner. Try diving deep and straight into it and start braking later than you normally would and start building your speed up after the midsection. Exit the last 90 degree one right after the long turn as straight and fast as possible and you should be able to do it under 2:00 like I did :D
 
Actually, that test wasn't as hard as I was expecting it to be. I got gold in like 4 tries. I had heard horror stories, but they weren't true, so it seems...
 
Originally posted by Speed Drifter
Yes, the NYC track isn't so easy it looks like.. I can't give any big tricks because there aren't any but try taking early apex in every corner that has long straight after it so you can maximize your overall speed and another corner where you can save some time is the last 270 degree corner. Try diving deep and straight into it and start braking later than you normally would and start building your speed up after the midsection. Exit the last 90 degree one right after the long turn as straight and fast as possible and you should be able to do it under 2:00 like I did :D

actually, you got it backwards.

early apex is used when you are trying to take advantage of the speed of the previous straight away for as long as possible, and outbrake someone into a corner. It shouldn't be done in a corner that has a long straight away after it, because it will kill your exit speed.

Late apex involves braking early, and hitting the inside corner well after the apex of the turn. You end up entering the turn slower then normal, but your exit speed will be higher. This higher exit speed advantage is maintained down the entire straightaway. Late apex'ing allows you to get on the power earlier. The reason for this is because if you dive deep into the corner on the outside, and then late apex, the radius of the corner from the point you stop braking, through the exit, and back to the outside of the track is much larger then if you hit the apex in the middle.

FWD cars also benifit from a later apex.

That being said, on pro level, I'm about half-a-lap ahead of the elise, using a type R on the fuji track.
 
Well, I like racing the Elise 190, cause that is only one of the few incident where you really have to drive to catch the "AI" cars.

I have no problem beating it on the Tsukuba Circuit with an Type-R Civic (not the spoon version) but I don't think I can beat it with a Miata, lol. If anyone beats it on that circuit, I would very much like to see it. :)
 
Originally posted by Rocket Punch
Well, I like racing the Elise 190, cause that is only one of the few incident where you really have to drive to catch the "AI" cars.

I just had a good race against the elise about 10 minutes ago. The race was at Fuji and I was in the trusty Mazda Kusabi. It was a clean back adn forth race, but in the end I won by about a second, man that thing is fast. IT obviously has a terrible driver, though. :lol:
 
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