Canadian Grand Prix future in question... again

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I hope it doesn't drop off the calendar forever, always love watching the Canadian race. It's always packed with fans every year, more than can be said for places like Bahrain and Korea. I'll surely miss it if it goes away.
 
No doubt people will criticise Bernie endlessly for this. However, this paragraph sticks out:
Ecclestone wants improvements to the creaking infrastructure at Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve – it’s broadly considered among F1 watchers as a basic condition to a long-term deal.

The public estimate for the costs of revamping the mould-infested paddocks and the aging control tower is roughly $27-million, although sources who have seen the plans suggest that’s a decidedly conservative figure.
The facilities at the circuit are nearly thirty years out of date. The circuit is built on the former rowing basin of the 1976 Olympic Games, and the pits and paddock haven't been updated since they were moved from L'Epingle to their current location in 1987. The facilities are so poor that every year, a temporary expansion to th paddock has to be built on pontoons that extend out into the St. Lawrence River.

So it's not unreasonable for Ecclestone to demand changes to the circuit.
 
So it's not unreasonable for Ecclestone to demand changes to the circuit.
And to do that, they pretty much have to change the island...
 
No doubt people will criticise Bernie endlessly for this. However, this paragraph sticks out:

The facilities at the circuit are nearly thirty years out of date. The circuit is built on the former rowing basin of the 1976 Olympic Games, and the pits and paddock haven't been updated since they were moved from L'Epingle to their current location in 1987. The facilities are so poor that every year, a temporary expansion to th paddock has to be built on pontoons that extend out into the St. Lawrence River.

So it's not unreasonable for Ecclestone to demand changes to the circuit.

If Canada is a problem what about Monaco then ? It's just an excuse made by Bernie because he dont want to go to Canada anymore for reason we dont know. Probably money and other stuff. At least that's what I think.
 
And to do that, they pretty much have to change the island...
It's not that difficult. They just have to dredge up part of the river. It's a fairly straight-forward engineering project.

If Canada is a problem what about Monaco then ?
They did just fine when they upgraded the pits a few years ago. After all, pit lane used to run parallel to the main straight. Now it goes around the opposite side of the pit building and garages.
 
It's not that difficult. They just have to dredge up part of the river. It's a fairly straight-forward engineering project.
Other tracks can just get away with a new pit complex. Being on a narrow strip of land between a river and rowing basin/seaway makes it rather more complex and costly.

I don't think they'll be allowed to touch the river (which is on the other side of the track to the pits), but they could always concrete over the rowing basin.
 
If Canada is a problem what about Monaco then ? It's just an excuse made by Bernie because he dont want to go to Canada anymore for reason we dont know. Probably money and other stuff. At least that's what I think.

I really don't think that's the case (for a change), the track facilities, like Silverstone, really are getting old and tired. As others have said since the pits were moved to their current location there hasn't really been any further developments there. It needs work, certainly.
 
I hope it doesn't drop off the calendar forever, always love watching the Canadian race. It's always packed with fans every year, more than can be said for places like Bahrain and Korea. I'll surely miss it if it goes away.
I'm tired of hearing that. What exactly is the problem?
 
I'm tired of hearing that. What exactly is the problem?

I thought his point was pretty clear, the Bahrain GP isn't as packed with fans as the Canadian GP is. Fairly straight forward.

Race day attendances I could find..

Canada 2011: 115,000
Canada 2007: 120,000
Canada 2006: 119,000


Bahrain 2013: 28,000
Bahrain 2012: 28,000
Bahrain 2010: 100,000
Bahrain 2009: 97,000

Canadian attendences for the whole weekend are usually circa 300,000. Bahrain you can usually count the fans on Friday practice.
 
It is an awesome track (take the Metro to get there 👍), but yes it is quite dated, and could use a 'sprucing up'

The Olympic infrastructure (rowing basin) is almost 35 years old.

Question is would the investment be worth the return?

I hope so :nervous: as the last race I attended was in 1988, since I moved to Western Canada
 
Bring the Canadian GP to the streets of Toronto !!
 
It is an awesome track (take the Metro to get there 👍), but yes it is quite dated, and could use a 'sprucing up'

The Olympic infrastructure (rowing basin) is almost 35 years old.

Question is would the investment be worth the return?

I hope so :nervous: as the last race I attended was in 1988, since I moved to Western Canada

Wish I could've been there in 1988... Lucky man. Although I was only born in 1989 so it wasn't possible. Speaking of 1989, what a great race that was too -- one of Senna's best ever performances, until his engine blew with 3 laps to go -- on a wet track mind you. Not often that happens.

Last race I went to was in 2010. I'll probably go again next year since it's been too long for me.

Bring the Canadian GP to the streets of Toronto !!

Honestly, it's just not a good idea at all, and I'm from Toronto. Circuit Gilles Villeneuve is a fantastic track in a great location. I would hate to see the Canadian Grand Prix run on some boring street configuration like the Toronto Honda Indy. If anything, moving it back to Mosport Park would be much better, but that track is in no way F1 ready, and even then it still doesn't compare to CGV -- a top 5 track in F1 imo.
 
Not a fan of the street circuit in T.O.

Even worse when you race it twice as in Indy Car :sly:

Hopefully Montreal we re-invest in the circuit Gilles Villeneuve 👍
 
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