can't beat the r390 on tc

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im in the middle of a championship and i really wanna beat this r390, but i can't get my polyphony001 to go any faster... i can't even get right behind him at the start to try and draft the whole 15 laps :/ any ideas? i've tried changing the 6th gear ratio, but it seemed to make me go slower :thatsodd:
 
For starters, drop all down force to a minimum.

next, widening the Autosetting to widest will accomplish a bit, but you'll lose acceleration. I'm not the best tuner in the world, but try setting the the Final drive to 4.000 and adjusting the Autosetting to a point where you top out 6th gear at the end of the back straight.

Lose the camber and set toe to 0.0.

It may be that the R390 does have more power, and the top speed is more than the 001 can get to. In which case, skip the race (or run it and get a silver), then come back later with a more powerful car, and get a gold.

I'm guessign that running the 001, you've already got a few golds in the series, so it won't matter if you skip a race.

AO
 
What car are you using? :gcar:, if you use a :nissan: R390 yourself with good settings/tyres :burnout: your sure to win :chkflag:..
 
Not being able to win in an F1 is almost unheard of. Unless there are other F1's present...I would not recommend messing with the setup on your F1, I dont think you will ever get it back to normal.




OOOOOOHH, I just realized what "tc" means, Test Course....Try being a little more obvious next time....Yah just skip this and bring back the Escudo,
 
you're driving an F1, and losing to an R390.
i must say, of all the non-Formula cars to be losing to, that's the best, but there is still no reasone you'd lose to one.

set the transmission as high as it'll go.
if the R390 still comes up on you, try and stay in front of him, let him push you (it's really hard).
also, try and take the turns as smoothly as possible, but do not sacrifice any speed at all. the AI in this game goes unreasonably slow on this course's turns.

good luck! :)
 
You can beat the R390 @ Test Course using the Poly001 (assumably the F094/S)... I'm assuming you're talking about the Pro/GT All-Stars...

I used the F687/S with default settings except:
Suspension/Camber: Front = 0.0; Rear = 0.0
Suspension/Toe Angle: Front = 0.0, Rear = 0.0
Gear Ratio/Auto Setting = 43
Stability/Downforce: Front = 0.59; Rear = 0.81

My oil light went on during lap 14 of this race (having given the F687/S an oil change just before starting the series). My F687/S started this race with 2487.8 miles and 914 hp, and ended with 2585.2 miles and 870 hp. Expect similar engine wear and HP dropoff during this race (I may have been a little better off with an Auto Setting of 42).

With no other cars, the F687/S will post lap times around 1.42.000 to 1.45.000. The R390 posts times around 1.37.000 to 1.39.000. Hence... YOU HAVE TO DRAFT!!!

What is crucial is falling into the R390's windbreak once the race starts. I was *BARELY* able to catch it, having started from 6th, but it was not easy (these settings aren't tuned for quick jumps).

But, no matter what, you still have to draft. Doing so will keep you in time with the R390, maintaining anywhere from 235-244 mph (378-393 kmph) around the track. Standalone, the F687/S tops out at around 229 at the end of the straights, around 218-220 in the turns...

For the runs that I've tested (I've ran MANY MANY unsaved times with the F687/S against the R390 and GT-ONE), the R390 pits after 7 laps @ Test Course. So when it does, you will likely have to keep going. Actually, I found that pitting with the R390 was OK, as long as barely ahead, or just a shade behind). At some point (whether you pit with the R390 or not), the R390 will catch up with you again, and you *MUST* fall back into its windbreak until it pits again after lap 14 (do not pit with it). Not doing so means not getting the gold (at least that's what it seemed like)...

I needed a lot of drafting practice (NOT "drifting" :)) to win these races, especially with uneven tire wear (it becomes easier around lap 10, when all tires go red). The funny thing is.. the RUF CTR2 probably provides a bigger challenge than the R390 (Pro/Turbo@Test Course)...

Anyway, I found that the key was drafting. Not slipstreaming, which would require drafting, but just simply staying close behind the leader for the laps where they don't pit.

Well, I hope this helped a little. You might want to take the downforce down a little more, to squeeze another mph out, but I found that you'll only be able to go as fast as the car you're drafting anyway...

Let us know how things go! Have a great drive!

Hazzard

PS - One last tip... It helps to save the car's default settings, so that you can switch it back without problem...
 
yeah i saved the race before, so the car still has its default's on, but i'll save em again just before i do it... i did the race last night and settled for second, but didn't save, so i'll have a go at drafting behind him the whole way, and then shoot into the pits just before him.. my poly001 seems to max at 357 or so now, im thinking the r390 does like 380-390? anyways, will fiddle with settings and see how i go
 
Yeah, I think you can do it! Just remember to pass the R390 up when it pits before lap 15. You'll stretch around a 19 second lead by the 1/2 way point, a lead it won't be able to overcome...

Have you (or anyone else) tried sweeping the series with the ESCUDO? The Test Course (and 7 others) are easily winnable.. but it took me something like 7 tries each to beat the R390 @ Laguna Seca and Mid-Field II.. Just wondering if anyone else has done it, 'cause it's a real pain in the gas!

Anyway, have a great drive!

Hazzard
 
That sure helps Shadow...But I used to have the same problem with the r390 beating me at test course and I still do...The only way I won is by driving dirty...
 
Originally posted by Mith
im in the middle of a championship and i really wanna beat this r390, but i can't get my polyphony001 to go any faster... i can't even get right behind him at the start to try and draft the whole 15 laps :/ any ideas? i've tried changing the 6th gear ratio, but it seemed to make me go slower :thatsodd:
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The GP cars struggle with straight line speed because they have a LOT more downforce than the Le Mans cars.

The Le Mans circuit is a very low downforce circuit with a number of very long straights (although one was cut down significantly a few years back - indeed prior to the back straight being cut down by the chicane the WM Peugeot team went there with the sole aim of breaking 400kmh down the back straight, and when they acheived it they packed up and went hom).

Consequently, Le Mans cars have bodywork specifically aimed at reducing drag, and consequently are capable of much higher top speeds than grand prix cars, although they can't accelerate or, obviously, corner as quickly.
 
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