Car for my sister

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- Safe
- Extreme reliability
- Less than $12,000 (near alabama, or carmax nationally)
- Less than 70k mi
- mid 20s or greater in fuel economy
- Power is not a factor
- Greater than 2 doors
- Insurance not insane.

Right now she's thinking Mazda 3. Thoughts?
 
I dunno about the reliability on the Mazda 3. Doesn't look phenomenal. I was thinking volvo too, but are they really so reliable? Also they're kinda pricey.

Civics are godawful expensive in her area right now, as are carollas. Honda accords aren't too bad.
 
How about a 2008 & up scion xB. It's Reliable, I get a average of 25 ish mpg & I drive with some vigor, it has lots of space, its very safe, just a great all around car. I love my 2009 scion xB.
 
Scion xB gets 3.5 stars on JD power. Not too bad, but not exactly amazing. I don't find them attractive, but it's not for me so she can be the judge. That's what you guys are here for, to toss things at me I wouldn't think of.
 
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Scion xB gets 3.5 stars on JD power. Not too bad, but not exactly amazing. I don't find them attractive, but it's not for me so she can be the judge. That's what you guys are here for, to toss things at me I wouldn't think of.

Well I'm suggesting it because I love mine. It might have some love or hate looks to it. But If she did buy it I would like to guess nothing would go wrong with it. It has that Toyota quality. & it has more space in the back with the seats down then a lot of small SUVs.
 
Right now she's thinking Mazda 3. Thoughts?

Honestly, that's what I'd probably go for. A late model, first-generation Mazda 3 would be the way to go. The later versions had some slightly better visual updates, and some other interesting colors added.

I nearly got a 2009 Mazda 3i before I found my Celica. Even though the Toyota was the better financial decision, there are times I wish I would have gotten the Mazda. It was a blast to drive, even in stripper form. I'd probably point her away from the 2.3L model, the extra few horsepower really isn't worth it, nor is slightly worse fuel economy. I'd definitely go for the '08 or '09, they should be right in the price range you're looking at.


If we want to talk about other Japanese options, there are some other things to consider:

  • Honda Fit (First Generation): Resale values are pretty crazy on these cars, the configurability of the seats and the extra cargo space are major selling factors
  • Toyota Corolla: Yes and no. Reliable, yes. Anything better than that, no.
  • Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe: In terms of practicality, these wouldn't be too bad. They're basically wagon versions of the Corolla, extremely reliable, seem to be readily available in most places. The Pontiac would probably be cheaper, I'd consider the first-generation model more visually appealing than the Toyota
  • Subaru Forester: Probably the best of the Subaru crop, in my opinion. From what I understand, however, there is some variability in the reliability of the 2.5L H4. I'm not up to date on all of it, but the later versions of the second-generation model seem to be quite good

The only other things I could really think of looking at would be something like the Honda CR-V or the Ford Escape. The front-drive, four-cylinder models seem to be pretty affordable, good on gas, and as I recall were relatively safe. Even up here in nasty Michigan, they get along quite well, and if you opt for the 4WD versions, the gas mileage penalty isn't that great.

I'm not sure what the used car market is like down in Alabama, but I'd imagine it is mostly made of domestics with a smattering of Japanese options. It's a really rough time in the used car market, but if she shops around, she might be able to get a great deal on some newer, or even brand-new vehicles that some dealers are looking to dump off ASAP.

I know up here in Michigan, they're still trying to get rid of 2012 Chevrolet Impalas, they'll be rushing to get rid of 2013 models very soon, as the 2014 model is coming. From what I understand, they're doing the GM discount, plus $8000 off, plus some guaranteed values for trade-ins, and a few other deals. Getting a brand-new Impala LS for $15,000 or less isn't out of the question, and that is before a trade-in.
 
Don't go with the Vibe. My grandmother had one, totally unreliable. Almost cost her life when the pedal went to the floor by itself and she crashed. Other problems with it not starting etc also came into play.


My pick for $5-$7K would be the 2006 Ford Fusion. Comes with either the 2.3L Duratec I4 or the 3.0L 6 cylinder, power comes at about 160hp for the I4 and 220hp for the V6. It's a 4 door, pretty nice looking and has great reliability. 23mpg for city and up to 31mpg for the highway. Safety and overall ratings for customers are very high.

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I found something on eBay that you might like, but you might not. It's a bit far away.

Lexus ES330, 56k miles, $12,000

I would advise against a Fusion. A Camry or Accord would get better mileage, be nicer to drive, and would have more space. If you want mileage, don't get a hip box-car like the xB. The Fit, Corolla, Civic, Accord, and Camry are all good options, but it could take some searching to find a low mileage one under 12 grand in your region.
 
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Get a 3rd generation ES300. They're old enough that you can find a good one for cheap, and a large majority of them are senior owned, so most haven't been too ripped up. They're quite reliable, have a good amount of equipment, and are very nice to ride in. They're very comfortable, have decent power, and great reliability. Your sister might appreciate a luxury badge on the front as well.

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The Infiniti I30's another car to consider. Based off the Nissan Maxima, it shares all the good mechanical bits, and Maximas are known to last forever. Offers the same amount of luxury as the ES300, but with more modern styling. The Infiniti badge on the front means it depreciates faster, so finding a good low mileage example should be no problem, though it was never as popular as its competitors.
 
My pick for $5-$7K would be the 2006 Ford Fusion. Comes with either the 2.3L Duratec I4 or the 3.0L 6 cylinder, power comes at about 160hp for the I4 and 220hp for the V6. It's a 4 door, pretty nice looking and has great reliability. 23mpg for city and up to 31mpg for the highway. Safety and overall ratings for customers are very high.

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Ok so I had kinda ruled out domestic cars, but I'm shocked at how good the JD power rankings are on the fusion... shocked. It's astonishingly good, and they can be found cheap too.
 
Get an old Volvo. It's worth it because I have a old Volvo.

If my mind serves me correct, you frequently mention your old Volvo's unreliability. One of the most important requirements here is good reliability. ;)
 
Ok so I had kinda ruled out domestic cars, but I'm shocked at how good the JD power rankings are on the fusion... shocked. It's astonishingly good, and they can be found cheap too.

Same thing as the Mazda 6 underneath. They really engineered these cars well, they are a pleasure to drive and to ride in. Although, I think the Mazda was built in Michigan and the rest down in Mexico. Not sure if that is a factor or not.

Actually, I'd be more inclined to get the Mercury Milan. Their resale values really tanked when they closed the brand, but, I'd still consider it the best-looking of the four variants of the basic car. Even the basic model is quite the looker. Quite safe as I recall as well.
 
Not a clue as to why that would be. Edmunds has the car marked clean across the board, from 2005 onward.
 
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Looks very much like it's gonna be a 3rd generation G35 sedan. They can be found with ~80k miles for about $10k. Reliability is good, looks good, comfortable, powerful, even decent on insurance.
 
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