Car Ideas That Should Make It

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Max_DC
M3 6 kg / PS, my Sti 4,8 kg / PS ....[/color]

Well, my car also has a lot of rally technology, but more important is that technology made cars a lot faster since 1988.... ok cars also have gained more weight since then, nevertheless a stock M3 won't have a lot of chances, the Impreza is a cornering machine.... it's no race car, but it will definatly blow a 200 hp 1200 kg FR car from the 80's... If you reduce the weight ( -200 kg ) + slicks and a wing... yeah then it will / could win against the STi while still being cheaper... I know that.... but not stock, that's all I wanted to say....
Evo 8 RS - Impreza Wrx Sti spec C, same performance...
Afterall, of course old tuned cars always win the moneyforperformance game, and often they are also more fascinating (sound, pure driving experience )...
To come back to topic : I said that I want the car manufacturers to release low weight editions and I want them to be cheap ( unlike the M3 Csl for example )... And I said that my car is not the worst out there in terms of weight : It is no lightweight car with its 1500 kg, not at all, but as I said it is a middle class limousine with AWD for that it is ok, but I would of course prefer the Spec C, although not having an air condition is hard... I mean if you have to drive your car on a daily basis, a AC is a must have....



Wing - Last I checked cars don't fly. . .
Evo 8 RS vs. WRX STI spec C - Do a little better research are you thinking of the Evo fq-300, fq-340 or fq-400 ? I highly doubt a baseline Evolution RS will compete with one of the top line STIs as the spec C
AC - I totally disagree with you there buddy. I lived over 20 years in Florida and about 8 years driving down there and never once needed the AC. THis also was not in the panhandle, this was from Occee to Winter Park and down in Fort Lauderdale. So you have totally talked yourself in a circle here because you wanted a totally stripped car and now you want AC. . .
 
How about a rotary / electric hybrid in a mini-van or truck? Who says the rotary has to be in sports cars? Or how about a 3 rotor RENESIS like in the RX-8 LM. But that monster in a truck and you've got some real power. Or better yet, put it in an airplane.
 
miata13B
Wing - Last I checked cars don't fly. . .
Evo 8 RS vs. WRX STI spec C - Do a little better research are you thinking of the Evo fq-300, fq-340 or fq-400 ? I highly doubt a baseline Evolution RS will compete with one of the top line STIs as the spec C
AC - I totally disagree with you there buddy. I lived over 20 years in Florida and about 8 years driving down there and never once needed the AC. THis also was not in the panhandle, this was from Occee to Winter Park and down in Fort Lauderdale. So you have totally talked yourself in a circle here because you wanted a totally stripped car and now you want AC. . .

Wing spoiler, as you like it....
I talked about IMPREZA STi Spec C, EVO VII RS and they have about equal lap times...
Well I live in Germany and I've driven with and without AC... it's a safty thing, you can concentrate much better íf you have a cold atmosphere....
talked in a circle ? I said I want a light car and AC... AC is a lot of weight, but there are other possibilities to save weight... 9/10 M3 CSl have AC...
 
Airplanes don't actually need a lot of power. I've heard of little volkswagen and subaru air cooled engines that work great as motors for airplanes. But they don't need much power at all.
 
skicrush

Looks like a C6 without and panels on it right now. It's still under developement and it not really "real". But everyone around GM knows about it. I haven't seen the motor however, but the guys working on the project said it was big. It's only going to be a concept however, there are no production plans.
 
skicrush
Airplanes don't actually need a lot of power. I've heard of little volkswagen and subaru air cooled engines that work great as motors for airplanes. But they don't need much power at all.

Lets see that Volkswagen get a 12 passenger airplane off the ground (:
 
Well, that's what I'm saying. A blower and a couple more CF panels, lose some sound padding, it would be a lot cheaper than having Callaway do it FOR you, and Chevy gets the bragging rights as the actual manufacturer. Stomping Enzos and such. No more of this "Yeah, your lingenfelter can beat me, but your car is MODIFIED." Just make it an option. Maybe the y need a new cam, or a couple other little things. But its nothing that will cost too much if they just do it while they're building it. It's nothing but a moneymaker for them.

[edit] OK, now you're just being silly. Yeah, big planes need more torque, actually, to keep the bigger props moving. And knowing how weak the current rotary is on torque compared to comparable V6s, I don't think it would be a great motor. (Not that a V6 would either, because of balance issues) I do have to admit that I'm getting out there on what I know about airplanes. But I DO know that a lot of them use bigger straight diesel engines--plenty of torque and great mileage.
 
Max_DC
Wing spoiler, as you like it....
I talked about IMPREZA STi Spec C, EVO VII RS and they have about equal lap times...
Well I live in Germany and I've driven with and without AC... it's a safty thing, you can concentrate much better íf you have a cold atmosphere....
talked in a circle ? I said I want a light car and AC... AC is a lot of weight, but there are other possibilities to save weight... 9/10 M3 CSl have AC...

I never mentioned anything about an M3 CSL, you just decided to bring that into the equation here.

Isn't the STI spec C suppose to be the STI of all STIs to have or am I thinking of another model. . . Can't keep up with them, sheesh. . .

I disagree with AC being a safety thing. . . Where are the proven facts of this? I know when it is freezing outside I can't drive properly, I am shivering and I juke the steering wheel a bit, plus not being able to fully manipulate the accelerator. . .
 
miata13B
I never mentioned anything about an M3 CSL, you just decided to bring that into the equation here.

Isn't the STI spec C suppose to be the STI of all STIs to have or am I thinking of another model. . . Can't keep up with them, sheesh. . .

I disagree with AC being a safety thing. . . Where are the proven facts of this? I know when it is freezing outside I can't drive properly, I am shivering and I juke the steering wheel a bit, plus not being able to fully manipulate the accelerator. . .

The Spec C is lighter than the normal STi (~1500 kg and ~1350 kg I think) Apart from that there is no difference, but as you said it is their Top model, ok maybe there is also the S201 with 40 hp more (only a limited edition), but the spec c is the fastest stock sti...

There were several official tests conerning the temperatures of the interior : The hotter it is, the less you can concentrate on driving... and that is obvious from the medical point of view... OK, you can also open up all windows instead of an AC, but that is loud, your neck will probably hurt after some time and it is not very healthy ( diesel particles etc )...

The spec C for example has a second little hood on top of the roof and you can open it up and wind blows into your face... a lightweight AC if you want... and If I think about it, this option should be availibe for racing freaks in other cars...
 
Let's revive the MA/RA/TA 60-65 Platform, and rebirth the Celica.

Throw on new body styling, something that will be appealing but not too catchy. Offer a coupe and hatchback. Use a modified Altezza/IS300 suspension setup. Offer 3 engine choices; The 4A-GELU, a revised R-22E design, and the 2JZ-GE. Have the car start off at around $15,000 and top off in the $25,000 zone. Offer fully stripped-down "Club-sport" trim levels, a la Evolution RS. And offer one special model, with more agressive styling than the first two, and a hatchback. Run the 2JZ-GTE. Badge it at around $30,000. Call it... Celica Supra :sly:
 
Loud Music: there WAS a rotary pickup. from the mother of rotaries, Mazda. was made in the 70's
and ford did an all electric ranger Mark 3/3rd gen ten years ago. i saw the thing while I was in college in 93. they brought it right to the quad. practically drove the thing.

So you want a Neon with Smart car running gear and the reliability of a Toyota GT-One?
more like with MB directly, not just Smart's version...something I don't have to yank the seat all the way up on and have to shove my knees into the instrument cluster just to reach the heater controlls. literally.
you know how much of a pain in the butt it is having to scoot the seat up, and watch everybody else in the car get folded like Origami?

what bugs me even more is that I finally got a chance to sit behind the wheel of a 30's antique (just to start the car, mind, while someone checked the carb), and the few controlls are in reach...but I can't reach the blasted pedals!
 
I think you mean 500 hp. You can get the SSR with the LS2 with 400 horses right now, I think. The Z06's LS-7 puts out 500 horses.
 
skicrush
I think you mean 500 hp. You can get the SSR with the LS2 with 400 horses right now, I think. The Z06's LS-7 puts out 500 horses.

He has no idea what he means - his was among the worst posts I've ever read on this site.

Regardless, yes - the Z06 is set to have 500 horsepower, while vehicles currently using the 6-liter engine have 400 (Chevrolet Corvette, Cadillac CTS-V, Chevrolet SSR, Pontiac GTO).
 
They get awful mileage on the street, produce far too much heat and don't respond well to constant RPM changes, ie; horrible thottle response, like the worst turbo lag ever.

That said, Marine Turbine Technologies does produce both a truck and a motorcycle powered by rebuilt helicopter engines. Mostly just demo vehicles, but Jay Leno has one of the bikes.
 
Emohawk
Smart guy, you'll go places :D
Arigatou :D

Hee... I'm gonna steal this thread for another site, I like it :boggled:

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By the way just for more detail: I say use the old '60 platform simply because it's much lighter. hopefully toyota would have the common sense not to weigh it down with some of that stupid stuff we call safety equipment. Seriously do we need 8 airbags? How about 30 pounds of sound insulation... all those little details add up. I want something LIGHT, and right now the Mazda Miata and RX-8, and Lotus Elise are the two only truly light (under 3,000 lb) RWD sport machines I see. The MR2 needs more power and to actually be a noticable/recognizable machine for me to acknowledge it as a player in that field. The 4A-GELU idea comes from the idea of having a horsepower lineup like this: 150, 190, 230.

I am positive you could milk 190 HP from the R-22, if not ditch it and run the Camry/TC's current 2.4, that thing's capable of more than 160. And the 2JZ? It should be able to cover 230. C'mon, we're talking about Toyota here. The company that can safely milk 240HP and 10,000RPM redline outta a 1.6! Just the mere mention of 4A-G in ANY of the car's adds will bring in the masses. Oh, and Toyota, I suggest you sell the engine in the performance parts catalogue, bota a street-legal and full-blown 20-valve racing variant. There are thousands of loyal AE86 owners dying to get their hands on them ;)

The 2JZ-GTE? Bring that sucker to 300HP to not make the car too good for its price ;) (after all, we're already squaring it off against the Mustang and beating it in cornering, on the promise it won't break 2,850 pounds [come on, I know it can be done])

And, c'mon, we're bringing back the Celica, Celica Supra and true RWD Toyota Performance back alive! Who doesn't want to see that?

Next project: Corolla RWD revival ;)
 
Id like a car that has the same sized nuts on everything but the wheels, so I'd only need say a 10mm spanner and a phillips head screw driver to take it apart. My car uses 3 different sized nuts and bolts, 10mm for the body (Toyota), and 13mm for the engine (GM-Holden) and 7mm to get at the wipers.
It should have a standard sized radio slot.
And no Americans should be allowed in the design department, not even to empty the rubbish bins. I dont want 35 cup holders or flame surfacing whatever that is. I want either round (E class Mercedes) or rectangular (94 Impreza) headlights, not some weird shape that doesnt even have a proper name (current BMWs).
Most of all it should be designed by engineers not the marketing dept.
 
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