Car...Why you eat tyres?!?!

[swamidude]

Hey guys,

Started endurances and the like and am raging at how some of my favourite cars chew through tyres!

I typically use sports or racing hards, and within 4 laps of careful driving they're already 3/4 empty.

Am I doing something wrong?

Anyway I thought this thread could be used for everyone to put down the cars you find are the least fuel and tyre efficient, as well as those you have tamed to respect the rubbers you give them

Thanks,

Shiv

 

[Furinkazen]

Hey guys,

Started endurances and the like and am raging at how some of my favourite cars chew through tyres!

I typically use sports or racing hards, and within 4 laps of careful driving they're already 3/4 empty.

Am I doing something wrong?

Anyway I thought this thread could be used for everyone to put down the cars you find are the least fuel and tyre efficient, as well as those you have tamed to respect the rubbers you give them

Thanks,

Shiv

What car(s)?

 

[swamidude]

Sorry forgot to put them in the OP!

I've used the Merc C63, V12 Vantage and a BMW 3 Series.

On the 300 miles Laguna Seca Endo they had practically run out of tyres by lap 6 :S

 

[Furinkazen]

Sorry forgot to put them in the OP!

I've used the Merc C63, V12 Vantage and a BMW 3 Series.

On the 300 miles Laguna Seca Endo they had practically run out of tyres by lap 6 :S

C63 - RWD tyre shredder
V12 - Not sure? Maybe too much wheelspin?
3 Series - see C63.

 

[swamidude]

Yeah that's pretty much it, the V12 wrecks its front tyres first so I'm not sure if that's bad brake balance or what.
I think GTRs would be good, but I find them too bland to drive for long periods of time-Mercs are always exciting IMO.

 

[MSTER232]

Hey guys,

Started endurances and the like and am raging at how some of my favourite cars chew through tyres!

I typically use sports or racing hards, and within 4 laps of careful driving they're already 3/4 empty.

Am I doing something wrong?

Anyway I thought this thread could be used for everyone to put down the cars you find are the least fuel and tyre efficient, as well as those you have tamed to respect the rubbers you give them

Thanks,

Shiv

Maybe it's because you didn't give your cars breakfast before starting the race? That would explain why they are so hungry .

 

[C-ZETA]

Maybe it's because you didn't give your cars breakfast before starting the race? That would explain why they are so hungry .

Ohh god.

Yeah, anyway, in case you didn't notice, they are all powerful FR heavyweights, which is a bad combo for tyres. Try 4WD instead to take care of throttle control issues if they're there, or just use throttle control on your FRs.

 

[MSTER232]

Ohh god.

Yeah, anyway, in case you didn't notice, they are all powerful FR heavyweights, which is a bad combo for tyres. Try 4WD instead to take care of throttle control issues if they're there, or just use throttle control on your FRs.

Making the cars lighter so they put less pressure on the tyres will help because less pressure on the tyres mean less tyre wear.

 

[iamjajo]

Your cars are probably set too low for good tire wear. Raising the suspension, adding spring rate and proper LSD set up will substantially improve your tire issues.

 

[sumbrownkid]

Try to take it easy after you got a good lead. I found myself able to squeeze an extra lap or two from cruising around.

 

[MSTER232]

Your cars are probably set too low for good tire wear. Raising the suspension, adding spring rate and proper LSD set up will substantially improve your tire issues.

I don't see how raising your car can decrease tyre wear...?

 

[sumbrownkid]

I don't see how raising your car can decrease tyre wear...?

In theory, a car with a higher ride height and with softer spring rates will have less wear on the tires because the suspension is not as rigid in holding the tire in contact with the pavement. A lower ride height also helps combat body roll/lean. With that mitigated, your car grips more, which leads to more wear.

Think about it, why do people want to lower cars other than for looks? With that said, like everything else in cars, there are a billion other factors going into it, but generally a higher ride height can help with tire wear somewhat. It's the springs and dampers really that do the dirty work.

 

[N24_VANTAGE]

How are you driving? Do you throw the car into the corners and hang the tail out firing white smoke at the AI at every bend or are you driving with a steady throttle and measuring out the power to limit slip?

Your tyre wear at the rear sounds like you're too heavy with the throttle, try feeding the power in the corners slowly and wait for the car to straighten up to limit slip ensuring the tyres have as much grip as possible. Tyre wear at the front is usually caused by understeer, the effect of the tyres scrubbing along the tarmac. Try getting all you braking done before entering a corner and again, feeding the car towards the apex gently - treat it like a good woman - gently doe's it 👍

 

[N24_VANTAGE]

In theory, a car with a higher ride height and with softer spring rates will have less wear on the tires because the suspension is not as rigid in holding the tire in contact with the pavement. A lower ride height also helps combat body roll/lean. With that mitigated, your car grips more, which leads to more wear.

Not always, sometimes having a higher ride height can hurt your tyre wear. Remember you're roll/lean can lead to the tyres scrubbing across the surface (understeer) and this leads to more stress on the tyres. The best bet is probably to go with a respectable height and a medium spring rate to get the best compromise between handling and wear. 👍

Think about it, why do people want to lower cars other than for looks? With that said, like everything else in cars, there are a billion other factors going into it, but generally a higher ride height can help with tire wear somewhat. It's the springs and dampers really that do the dirty work.

I agree, its usually down the damper settings but lowering the ride height can improve handing quite alot, lower centre of gravity leads to better cornering performance.

Sorry for the double post.

 

[Racedude]

You can also try some lightweight in Sport Hards, because that's what the AI uses. A Lotus Elise, or a tuned Audi TT, depending on your skill.

 

[MSTER232]

In theory, a car with a higher ride height and with softer spring rates will have less wear on the tires because the suspension is not as rigid in holding the tire in contact with the pavement. A lower ride height also helps combat body roll/lean. With that mitigated, your car grips more, which leads to more wear.

Think about it, why do people want to lower cars other than for looks? With that said, like everything else in cars, there are a billion other factors going into it, but generally a higher ride height can help with tire wear somewhat. It's the springs and dampers really that do the dirty work.

Thanks for that! 👍

 

[swamidude]

How are you driving? Do you throw the car into the corners and hang the tail out firing white smoke at the AI at every bend or are you driving with a steady throttle and measuring out the power to limit slip?

Your tyre wear at the rear sounds like you're too heavy with the throttle, try feeding the power in the corners slowly and wait for the car to straighten up to limit slip ensuring the tyres have as much grip as possible. Tyre wear at the front is usually caused by understeer, the effect of the tyres scrubbing along the tarmac. Try getting all you braking done before entering a corner and again, feeding the car towards the apex gently - treat it like a good woman - gently doe's it 👍

Thanks for the tips mate, I'll definitely bear them in mind

 

[MSTER232]

How are you driving? Do you throw the car into the corners and hang the tail out firing white smoke at the AI at every bend or are you driving with a steady throttle and measuring out the power to limit slip?

Your tyre wear at the rear sounds like you're too heavy with the throttle, try feeding the power in the corners slowly and wait for the car to straighten up to limit slip ensuring the tyres have as much grip as possible. Tyre wear at the front is usually caused by understeer, the effect of the tyres scrubbing along the tarmac. Try getting all you braking done before entering a corner and again, feeding the car towards the apex gently - treat it like a good woman - gently doe's it 👍

Mwhahaha...

EDIT: Too bad I don't have a girlfriend at all for that matter .

 

[SavageEvil]

I thought everyone by now would have figured out that all those A spec events that PD keeps tossing out every few weeks were meant to help you tune your cars. I use that as my final testing for any sort of driving, main testing goes to arcade mode with cars in the 500PP range and running on sport hard tires, now I can race the AI on hardest setting at Nur and not tear my tires apart, it's actually incredible to understand how to drive and not have your tires squealing when you take banked turns, smooth acceleration and steering inputs along with correct braking and down shifting help you save your tires.

I have a boat load of 500pp rated cars some are much better than others, showing that not every car is meant for such a rating, but it's great to find out which cars are competitive at different PP. Slow in fast out and try not to make to many moves when turning and be patient.

 

[Giygas]

If you dont ever want to lose tires, a fiat 500 might work for you.

But seriously, cars can eat through tires depending on how you drive them. If you drive extremely hard and aggressively, they will run out of tread easily. If you make sure not to put much pressure on the car, you will get more out of the tire.

Also consider that the AI drive much softer than most human racers, so the tires last longer for them.

 

[MSTER232]

If you dont ever want to lose tires, a fiat 500 might work for you.

But seriously, cars can eat through tires depending on how you drive them. If you drive extremely hard and aggressively, they will run out of tread easily. If you make sure not to put much pressure on the car, you will get more out of the tire.

Also consider that the AI drive much softer than most human racers, so the tires last longer for them.

I agree with this post. You need to stop driving your cars so hard if your aim is to preserve the tyres' thread. If your aim is to get the fastest laptimes but run out of grip on your tyres really quickly, then carry on driving like you would normally drive.

 

[SnakeEyes427]

Hey guys,

Started endurances and the like and am raging at how some of my favourite cars chew through tyres!

I typically use sports or racing hards, and within 4 laps of careful driving they're already 3/4 empty.

Am I doing something wrong?

Anyway I thought this thread could be used for everyone to put down the cars you find are the least fuel and tyre efficient, as well as those you have tamed to respect the rubbers you give them

Thanks,

Shiv

At TPRA I'm wrapping up a GT race series. In that I am running a Ford Test Car. With the aero at or near full it eats up tires regardless of what track we run. I end up at 30/55 as a good balance of handling and tire wear. In fact, it was wreath two full laps on tires I added. Look in to it.