Cars over 1200 kg don't drift?

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So I dont quite grasp the concept of what makes drifting car a good drifting car.

Experience tells me the Suspension is only half the deal.. I know that it HAS to be light and have a decent HP or rather HP that would match its weight. (Levin only needs 260 HP at 900 kg)

But for example I got a hold of Mustang STV Cobra '00 brought it up to 700HP and down to 1324kg that I thought would make magic but no matter what I do to suspension etc it refuses to glide. Pulling an e break and car just stops sideways...Is there any secret to it??
 
I can get the Mustang Mach 1 to do it in stock form with ease. Turn and give it some gas, you'll see the ass end kick out like never before.
 
Slashfan
I can get the Mustang Mach 1 to do it in stock form with ease. Turn and give it some gas, you'll see the ass end kick out like never before.
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Then countersteer in order to hold the drift and adjust the throttle if you need to.

That's the basic principle I believe.
 
I think I can drift a stock prius since I have got avaiable CH tires (On a 89/91 degree downhill) shhhhh...
 
LanceVance
Comfort Hard Tires.

50% durability
0% grip

:)
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I got the tire part - always use CH; I just don't understand the 89/91 degree part (sorry for not making it clear in the other post).
Also the fact that the Prius is FF so it's just sliding not drifting...but we won't get into that in this thread. ;)
 
aadil717
I got the tire part - always use CH; I just don't understand the 89/91 degree part (sorry for not making it clear in the other post).
Also the fact that the Prius is FF so it's just sliding not drifting...but we won't get into that in this thread. ;)
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As you can see here , the smaller angle has 90º , if you put 89º/91º it will be a extreme downhill :)

(I'm trying to explain the best I can :/)
 
LanceVance
As you can see here , the smaller angle has 90º , if you put 89º/91º it will be a extreme downhill :)

(I'm trying to explain the best I can :/)
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If that's 90 then the other angles must both be 45. (High School Math - I hate Math).

A 90 degree slope is pretty much vertical - which is why I don't understand, I think you mean 45 degree slope?
 
Buys car, take it online.
Drifts.

Car wieighs 1730, has 458BHP and is a C63 AMG.
Can drift around Autumn ring with a 3500kg Tank car so yes, cars over 1200 is more than able to drift.
 
Both the IS F and the M5 are a blast to drift bone stock. Weight doesn't have as much to do with it as you think. Truth is, weight adds an extra element of control in some cases, as it keeps the car planted while smoking up the tires.
 
aadil717
If that's 90 then the other angles must both be 45. (High School Math - I hate Math).

A 90 degree slope is pretty much vertical - which is why I don't understand, I think you mean 45 degree slope?
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Angle B and angle C will only both be 45 degrees if the distances A-to-B and A-to-C are equal length... which would make it a right isosceles triangle (two equal sides, two equal angles, one 90degree angle)

in that illustration, they are not, as it's a scalene triangle (No equal sides, no equal angles)
 
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roflcoptor
Angle B and angle C will only both be 45 degrees if the distances A-to-B and A-to-C are equal length... which would make it a right isosceles triangle (two equal sides, two equal angles, one 90degree angle)

in that illustration, they are not, as it's a scalene triangle (No equal sides, no equal angles)
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Thanks for clearing that up, but they're definitely not 89/91 degree angles. They have to add up to 180? Because 89/91 is literally a near vertical gradient, am I not correct?

Edit: This is getting off topic now... :lol:
 
I've (very successfully) drifted Aston Martins, the Jaguar XFR and even the Audi Pikes Peak Quattro.
 
symustafa1996
For the SVT Cobra, have you considered bringing down all the aerodynamic aids down to zero? Happens to cars with spoilers.
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I don't think the car will be going that fast for aerodynamics to really affect the car. Also I think it'd help having aero on if it did.
 
I was messing around in an online lobby with a drag-tuned SVT lightning and noticed it liked to drift around corners pretty easily. Has anyone ever tried to drift trucks? Less traction over the rear wheels may be easier to control the oversteer?
 
aadil717
I don't think the car will be going that fast for aerodynamics to really affect the car. Also I think it'd help having aero on if it did.
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Well, I tried drifting the Silvia RM, and I couldn't. I was barely going over 150km/h. Turned out all the aero was on almost full. I just brought them down to zero and bam! drifts like a charm.
 
If you want to get the rear wheels sliding without any effort, then:
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If you actually want to be able to control the slide, then, not this :ouch:
 
Wait I have a Ford-Cammer and it weighs about 1450kg and it drifts just fine... Had a Cobra it drifted perfectly fine.. So I don't know. Check your power and torque. Generally muscle cars are easy to drift. Also, check your settings for the safety bar or whatever on your suspension
 
Well actually since that cobra I moved on to several other cars, right now I'm drifting Shelby GT50 that is ridiculously light for a muscle car (only a ton) and have SEEN one person successfully drifting it so proof is there it just lacked the exp to tune it. Have not attempted since , probably soon though.
 

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