Caught In the Crossfire: Chrysler Kills Underwhelming Roadster, Nobody Notices

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Dying Slowly on Dealer Lots, Lest We Forget

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Production of Chrysler's unsuccessful Crossfire sports car will end this summer, according to a report by German magazine AutoTelegraaf. The vehicle is currently built by Karmann in Germany.

Over a year ago, Chrysler paid Karmann to lower output of the ill-fated roadster/coupe. Production fell to around 12,500 in 2005, down from nearly 35,700 in 2004. The company sold 28,000 Crossfires in 2004 and just 9,900 in 2005.

Last year, it was reported that Crossfires spent an average of 302 days on the lot in 2005 before being sold.

The Crossfire is based on the previous-generation Mercedes SLK-Class platform. Weak sales have been blamed on everything from questionable styling to a high price tag.

It is about bloody time Chrysler realizes how stupid of an idea this car was and finally end its purposeless life on the Chrysler lots. They were overpriced, under-performing pieces of machinery that was based on a chassis that was too old, and just didn't hold any promise for an acceptable model in this day in age. Certainly, the SRT-6 was a halfway decent model, but for money like that, lets be serious... Most people in their right mind would have gone for the Corvette...

Granted, I've driven one, and I didn't think it was too bad overall. They were nice looking-ish both inside and out, and certainly had a presence that got you noticed. But they were just too damn expensive, and although they were faster than your average Miata or Solstice, they couldn't hold its own against the competition?

...Could this have been a reasonable car? Certainly. A V8 would have helped, so too would have a lower price. Beyond that, a committed advertising campaign to increase consumer awareness could have beneficial as well...

It was all too little, too late. Hopefully Chrysler learned something from this...
 
Good, all this thing did was eat resources, and end up in half baked products like the Sebring and Aspen.

BUT now super depreciation kicks in.... I'd like to have and SRT6 sometime in the future. :D :drool:
 
It is about bloody time Chrysler realizes how stupid of an idea this car was and finally end its purposeless life on the Chrysler lots. They were overpriced, under-performing pieces of machinery that was based on a chassis that was too old, and just didn't hold any promise for an acceptable model in this day in age.
The main problem was none of that (despite the chassis being nearly as old as the one in the Crown Vic, it still handled quite well and had good dynamics), as the Crossfire actually competed quite well with its main competitors, notably the Beamer Z4 and 350Z convertible. Remember, also, that the Crossfire sold quite well when it was new. The problem was that the few that they did sell in the recent years cannabalized its younger brother:
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Certainly, the SRT-6 was a halfway decent model, but for money like that, lets be serious... Most people in their right mind would have gone for the Corvette...
They were nice looking-ish both inside and out, and certainly had a presence that got you noticed. But they were just too damn expensive, and although they were faster than your average Miata or Solstice, they couldn't hold its own against the competition?
Both sentiments could be said of a certain other American convertible.
And had they not detuned the SRT-6 from SLK 32 AMG specifications, it probably would have been much better.
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...Could this have been a reasonable car? Certainly. A V8 would have helped, so too would have a lower price.
And what V8 would that be? The same V8 (4.7L) they should have put in the Prowler? The same V8 whose weight penalty offset the meager horsepower gains? The only engine option Chrysler could have used that would have been better would have been the 3.5L mill out of the Dodge sedans, or maybe the 3.5L mill out of the new SLK.
And don't say the Hemi. That would have stolen sales from both the SLK 55 and the Viper.
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It was all too little, too late. Hopefully Chrysler learned something from this...
I doubt it.
However, I think calling the model discontinued is a stretch, as it was sneaking up on the usual 4 year redesign period (8 years if you are Ford), and Chrysler simply didn't think it was worth it to put it on the new car's chassis with sales slipping (despite how obviously cheap to design and produce it would have been).
 
Good. Ugly worthless car and I'm glad its gone. I'll be happy to see less and less of them as the years go on.
 
Good, I'm glad it's dead. It sucked, even more so when the Soltice and Sky came out. A buddy of mine has one (for a couple more months, his dad is some big wig at Chrysler) and he couldn't even fit his backpack in the trunk. It was stupid from the get go.

They are talking about making the Demon, but I don't think they will.
 
The main problem was none of that (despite the chassis being nearly as old as the one in the Crown Vic, it still handled quite well and had good dynamics), as the Crossfire actually competed quite well with its main competitors, notably the Beamer Z4 and 350Z convertible. Remember, also, that the Crossfire sold quite well when it was new. The problem was that the few that they did sell in the recent years cannabalized its younger brother:

Yes and no, but I'll give you the one on the dynamics. I was surprised when I drove it, as it did move quite well, but there were better cars out there... Notably the 350Z and the Z4. But, the didn't sell all that well really ever. Sure, 35,000 may have been produced for the 2004 model year, I rarely see one even here in Domestic-domianted Michigan. Those models rolled-off into 2005, where only 28,000 were produced, and with further roll-offs, only 12,500 were built for 2006. They didn't build any for the remainder of 2006, and obviously they haven't built any 2007s.

Both sentiments could be said of a certain other American convertible.
And had they not detuned the SRT-6 from SLK 32 AMG specifications, it probably would have been much better.

What other convertible? The Solstice/Sky twins?

...However, the extra power probably would have helped the opinion of the car when it came to performance. Yes, it was powerful to begin with, and actually was surprisingly fast, but the overall refinement was down, and that was just one-more shot in the foot...

And what V8 would that be? The same V8 (4.7L) they should have put in the Prowler? The same V8 whose weight penalty offset the meager horsepower gains? The only engine option Chrysler could have used that would have been better would have been the 3.5L mill out of the Dodge sedans, or maybe the 3.5L mill out of the new SLK.
And don't say the Hemi. That would have stolen sales from both the SLK 55 and the Viper.

I had always said from the get-go that they should have used the 3.5L V6 from the big sedans from the beginning, but nobody would listen to me. It just seemed like a better idea, and it would have kept some of the costs down on the car, in theory at least. Also, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't the 3.5L from Chrysler more powerful than the V6 offered up by Mercedes?

...On the subject of the V8, I was thinking HEMI. It really only would have made sense in my opinion. Certainly they wouldn't have gone for the 425 BHP 6.1L unit, but the 'standard' 345 BHP 5.7L model. Strap that in with the five-speed slushbox, and it would have been a pretty decent ride... Certainly something worth putting up against the Corvette at Corvette prices...

I doubt it. However, I think calling the model discontinued is a stretch, as it was sneaking up on the usual 4 year redesign period (8 years if you are Ford), and Chrysler simply didn't think it was worth it to put it on the new car's chassis with sales slipping (despite how obviously cheap to design and produce it would have been).

Yes and no. They haven't built any for a while, and with 2005 models still lingering around, its plainly obvious that the model isn't worth replacing. They would certainly be more successful with a Firepower-type car, as the Crossfire just doesn't seem like the right thing to be in. I dunno, call me crazy I guess...

...I liked the Crossfire when I drove it, but after I got out, it was pretty much a 'whats the point?' situation. I just didn't feel like it was worth it whatsoever, no matter what history the car may have had as a Mercedes...
 
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I rarely see one even here in Domestic-domianted Michigan.

They are all in my area, I think I see 20-30 a day...they are like the Camry's of Southeast lower Michigan.
 
Would Chrysler attempt to "replace" it? Would the Demon do that kind of job?

I am wondering how much the price will go down now that they have realized that selling them is hopeless. Maybe they will dip to a price where they are worth what you are paying for.
 
What other convertible? The Solstice/Sky twins?
Right company, wrong car.
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Also, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't the 3.5L from Chrysler more powerful than the V6 offered up by Mercedes?
More than the 3.2L used in the Crossfire, but less than the 3.5L used in the current SLK.
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...On the subject of the V8, I was thinking HEMI. It really only would have made sense in my opinion. Certainly they wouldn't have gone for the 425 BHP 6.1L unit, but the 'standard' 345 BHP 5.7L model. Strap that in with the five-speed slushbox, and it would have been a pretty decent ride... Certainly something worth putting up against the Corvette at Corvette prices...
Even with the slushbox, it would have blown by the base Corvette and hit right into Viper territory. Think about it:
The current SLK55 pulls 60 in 4.3. The Viper pulls 60 in 4.0 (ish). The Chrysler 300C pulls 60 in 5.6 seconds, or only .3 seconds behind the 400-pound lighter W210 E55 AMG. The engine in the E55 AMG is now in the SLK 55 AMG, albeit slightly redone for more power. The SLK 55 AMG would weigh somewhat close to the weight of the Crossfire with the Hemi engine in it.
Based on this, if you put the Hemi in the Crossfire it would pull 60 in 4 flat, sure as hell. Coupled with the 200 pound or so lighter weight than the Viper, and its "faster than AMG" acceleration, Chrysler would have had a recipe for disaster not seen since Audi decided to muscle in on Kei car turf. It would have outhandled the Viper, matched it in acceleration and been faster than the SLK55 probably by both measurements. They simply could not have put the Hemi in the car without detuning it, and that would have made it pointless.
 
I liked the Crossfire too, but it really needed a better driving experience in this sector.
 
For shame. Admittedly, I never really liked the Crossfire, but there are far worse sellers they should have chopped. Mainly this monstrosity:

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Atleast the Crossfire was inoffencive (if a little bland).
 
They really need to redesign the PT if they are going to keep it, it's been the same since 01.
 
I wonder if them chopping the Crossfire has anything to do with this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070404/bs_nm/daimlerchrysler1_dc

After I read that story, I wondered what was going to happen to the Crossfire since they confirmed Chrysler was for sale. Anyway, I never cared for the Crossfire much, either. I saw one last night, which is kind of rare in this area. It only reaffirmed my opinion on how ugly the thing is. I never really liked it. I also agree that they should give the PT Cruiser a redesign. If not, they should at least give it a proper burial.
 
I did like the idea at first, But the SRT-6 Coupe was the only one worth buying, in my mind. Value of those in 20 years in gonna be pretty good, I'll reckon.
 
Yeah, you guys think the SRT-6's value will shoot up because of this? My grandpa has one.
 
Is the SRT-6 especially good or rare?

If not then i doubt that one will ever sell for more than it's current list price.
 
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Hahaha. It's a lease, anyway. You'd be surprised at how it can move, though. We put K&M air filters in and they really opened up the engine. I abhor the regular Crossfire, but the SRT-6 isn't bad if you can fit inside.

Still, nobody in their right mind would take one over a ZO6.
 
I think the SRT-6, (being particularly rare) will be bought and sold as one of those underappreciated cars that only a few know how cool it is, until someone spills the beans and suddenly everyone wants one.

Kinda like the way the Cosworth Vega is gaining popularity now.
 
Given how few of the SRT-6 models they made and thereby sold, they should be worth money in a long, long time, but not for the foreseeable future. If you think the awkward resale values of the Maserati Coupe is bad, it should be viewed as something similar for the SRT-6.

...I always thought the SRT-6 looked nice, particularly with that rear spoiler and the rather nice-looking wheels, but for that kind of money, like I had said before, just doesn't make much sense when you could buy the 10X better C6 over at the Chevrolet dealer down the street...
 
Yeah, you guys think the SRT-6's value will shoot up because of this? My grandpa has one.

No - it'll shoot down - I can't wait to pick up a used SRT-6 in three years for about $10k. I'm being serious.
 
See, I was always a fan of the Crossfire for its art deco bustleback styling (and since I'm only 5' 8" and used to squeezing into the cabins of MGB GT's and Triumph GT-6's, it was damned comfortable to me).

If I could've afforded it (and with some of the rebates, I probably could have with a bit of credit) the Crossfire would've been a nice touring coupe for me when I go from track to track with the team in the summer. It's a shame the car's not even going to get the benefit of a second generation to really capitalize on its looks and high customer satisfaction.

Quite honestly, though, it probably would've been a good idea to start the thing off with the SRT6 engine when they first rolled out.
 
...Could this have been a reasonable car? Certainly. A V8 would have helped, so too would have a lower price. Beyond that, a committed advertising campaign to increase consumer awareness could have beneficial as well...

It was all too little, too late. Hopefully Chrysler learned something from this...

I saw one just recently, and I realized how much I liked the design, despite the dog-taking-a-#2 profile. I love art deco, so that may be influencing my opinion. But you're right about how this could have been a good car. This was the first of Chrylser's new design, followed on the heels by the 300C. This, like the failed Prowler before it, needed that V8. Since the car was based on the original SLK, it's doubtful Chrysler thought to use a V8 to begin with, but after seeing the success of their Hemi's revival, it's bizzare that they didn't think to try and shoehorn at least the base 340HP 5.7L Hemi in there. Sure, the chassis is floppy, but that never stopped people from buying the early 90's Mustangs. The sheer paper specs alone would get people in showrooms; the engine noise would sell it. Oh, wait...that would have shown up the SLK55. Can't have that.... :indiff:
 
the original "concept" of the crossfire offered 275 hp supercharged v6 at a price of around $27,000 and was supposed to offer a 5 speed manual. If chrysler had stuck to it's plan it may have been a competitor with the similarly powerful/priced 350z. Unfortunately they over priced and underpowered it, while the better valued Z is a hit.
 
Chrysler drops the bomb on a lot of their vehicles that seem good in the concept form. Remember the Pronto?

How did this...
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Become this...
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I think its good they killed the Crossfire off, because remember the Crossfire was modeled on a old SLK.
 
I think its good they killed the Crossfire off, because remember the Crossfire was modeled on a old SLK.

To be blunt, it was a previous-gen SLK.

Think of the Crossfire as a hippo with lipstick on.
 
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