Cheap sporty cars!

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I'm currently looking to buy a car. I'm looking for a cheap sporty car around $4,000. Some examples of cars I like the appearance of: Maxda RX-8, Chrysler Crossfire, Honda s2000, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Toyota MR2, Dodge Neon SRT4.

I'm looking for just a cheap, sporty car to purchase. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
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You can forget Crossfire, as it's essentially MB SLK underneath and thus has kept it's value well above 6k. S2K's are around 6-12k for decent, non-wrecked ones, and I assume same for the SRT4. Mitsu Eclipse is most likely option for you especially if this is your first car. MR2.. Well, if you want to end up as a number in the young person crash statistics..
 
At this point, it would be better to save money and buy a quality car in a few years. Any fast car that you buy for 4000 is going to be awful on your wallet once you need to start fixing it, as it will inevitably be broken. Fast, cheap and reliable. Pick two.
 
You can forget the RX-8, Crossfire (which is crap anyways), S2000, and SRT-4 right off the bat for $4k, which leaves the Eclipse and MR2. You should also include the Mazda Miata and Nissan 240SX in your list; great cars that you can get for peanuts. I'd go for the MR2, because it's the most 'exotic' of the bunch, being mid engined and all. And it's just cool. The Eclipse isn't a bad sporty car (assuming you're going for a 90s version, the 00s version is blah), but you'll likely be more satisfied with the MR2, Miata, or 240SX.
 
Forget the SRT-4 and just find a 1st gen Neon ACR. They're cheap and they are epic on the track, plus they are practical, cheap to insure, cheap to repair, and people won't mess with you you because, well, it's a Neon.
 
Miata or E30.

Cheap (e30 parts less so)
Reliable
FUN
Corner carvers

$4k will get you pretty darn good examples of both of these cars.
 
Sporty car + being on a budget = Miata.

That is basically the reason the Miata exists. Being a cheap sports car is what the Miata was made to be. So, yes, as always: The answer is Miata.
 
Sporty car + being on a budget = Miata.

That is basically the reason the Miata exists. Being a cheap sports car is what the Miata was made to be. So, yes, as always: The answer is Miata.

The only issue I see with the Miata is a relatively low horsepower rating, and how small it is.
 
The only issue I see with the Miata is a relatively low horsepower rating, and how small it is.

The horsepower in a Miata isn't bad considering it doesn't weigh very much. Horsepower isn't everything when it comes to cars.

The size of a Miata would be in issue though. I mean I load the back of my car when I go grocery shopping and I don't even buy that much stuff, I'm not sure how I'd even remotely fit it in the small trunk space of the Miata. And if you had a second person with you then you'd really be stuck with a lack of space.
 
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The only issue I see with the Miata is a relatively low horsepower rating, and how small it is.

There are turbos and superchargers to boost power. Also Miatas are small enough that the low power output isn't a big deal. Plus the low weight helps with the low power
 
But if you're remotely "Tall", it's probably not your best bet.

E30's look neat, and have a bit more space in them.
 
There are turbos and superchargers to boost power. Also Miatas are small enough that the low power output isn't a big deal. Plus the low weight helps with the low power

175-200hp is plently, I think that would really liven it up.
 
My Miata made 195whp and ran circles around Mustangs and 5.7 GTO's.

Ran 14.00 @ 102 mph at the drags. 5600ft elevation.
 
Didn't realize they made that to begin with. Thought it was 120. 14's is good, considering most 350hp muscle runs 13.5s to 14s. Faster than I thought as well.
 
Thats why I said 175ish would be plenty for a car that light. Comparable to heavy 400hp cars. I really think a reworked front end would make it more desirable, at least for me. I was never a fan of how the front lights were laid out, and I think that's what kills it for me at least.
 
But if you're remotely "Tall", it's probably not your best bet.

Agreed, I don't think people realize just how tight those small lightweight sports cars are inside. I'm like 5'5" and 130lbs so I don't have these issues, however if you're like 5'8"-6'0" or above you'll have to forget about certain cars. How tight are we talking with these small sports cars? Here's a picture of a guy sitting in a friend's first-gen MR2.:sly:
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Big dudes fitting into tiny clown cars never loses its humor! Anyways, the most important thing here is to be honest with yourself about the car you want, why you want it, and what you're actually going to do with it. I'd love to have a hardcore track weapon with plates (like a stripped E30 M3 with a 3.2L swap or something), but since the closest road course is over 3 hours away I know that realistically it would be a waste of money and I'd never get to really enjoy the car for what it is. I may live out in the backwoods but the surrounding area has people on top of each other, the traffic is annoying, there are lots of lights, and the good driving roads go the opposite direction of any place where deer do not outnumber people. It takes me 20 minutes to get to closest fast food joint, 15 of those will be spent going from red light to red light, a 750hp Supra with a huge single turbo is going to suck because there's nowhere to spool it up and go. A nice 300-400hp V8 with torque to jump off the line is the way to have fun here (found that out the hard way), sure I'd love to own that S2000 but in reality I'd hate leaving my driveway in it knowing that high-revving motor is a pain to get moving in traffic and having a great chassis in bumper-to-bumper traffic is like going to a strip club to look at the bartender. Don't just buy something you want, buy something you can have fun in!👍

However, just because you have fun driving it does not mean you will have fun owning it!

Your brain is incapable of understanding the amount of fun you can have in an MR2 until you've driven one. As mentioned above, I knew a guy with a first-gen that he bought for cheap. The problem was that cheap MR2 was practically falling apart, the time and money invested into repairing the years of carelessly abusive morons the car endured prior was enormous. Nice ones will be at the high end of your budget and they're worth the money. One of the major downsides to this car is when you actually have to fix it: if you think your car has a stupidly designed thing like an oil filter next to a hot exhaust pipe, a drain plug that points directly at something guaranteed to make a mess when the fluid hits it, etc then I assure you thinking that design is stupid is merely because you have yet to own an MR2. Pretty much anything you'll ever need to repair is completely inaccessible without tearing half the car apart. When changing the fuel filter involves removing the battery, you really have to wonder what you're getting yourself into with this car if those two things are anywhere near each other.
 
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