Citroen 2CV oddity

JCE · Mar 25, 2005

Yea this is a stupid old car and no one cares right? Well, I just found something odd when I was upgrading it...let's see if anyone else has encountered this.

Won the Citroen 2CV type A '54 and started upgrading it to complete the 2CV race and upgrades the following parts in the following order (probably doesn't matter but still):

1) Racing Exhaust
2) Port Polish
3) Stage 1 Turbo
4) Engine Balancing

Then I went to put on the Racing Chip and the BHP actually shows it being REDUCED by 3BHP...wtf is this? Is this normal? Needless to say I haven't bought it yet.

DumpValve · Mar 25, 2005

That IS strange ! I know sometimes if you install a turbo on some cars then try an NA tune it lowers the HP significantly, but racing chip surely can't be the same thing ?

Strictly speaking a car this age wouldn't have have an engine management computer - so this sort of upgrade shouldn't be available.

Eldorado · Mar 25, 2005

I think it´s strange you actually can chip a car from the 50´s.

Alfetta · Mar 25, 2005

Especially with a turbo! :scared:

phonypoly · Mar 25, 2005

If you're having a hard time winning the race, just install Nitrous and nothing else, and -----forget about it! :indiff:

60 points awarded!
A 1954 sewing machine engine with Nitrous?? :lol:

PD's brain, works like no1 elses

<-- PD

Grip · Mar 25, 2005

so you can have a 2cv with 20 Hp, not 5!

Holdenhsvgtsr · Mar 25, 2005

phonypoly
If you're having a hard time winning the race, just install Nitrous and nothing else, and -----forget about it! 60 points awarded!
A 1954 sewing machine engine with Nitrous??
PD's brain, works like no1 elses <-- PD

1954 sewing machine with turbo,racing exhaust and nitrous

DumpValve · Mar 25, 2005

Grip
so you can have a 2cv with 20 Hp, not 5!

Mine had 50 :dopey:

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Grip · Mar 25, 2005

DumpValve
Mine had 50 .

impressive, i bet you got some good top speed with all of those vortex generators.

just wanted to say vortex genorator :dopey:

DumpValve · Mar 25, 2005

Grip
impressive, i bet you got some good top speed with all of those vortex generators.

just wanted to say vortex genorator

Had to get a full racing gearbox to stop it topping out at 54MPH (86KPH). Managed to get it up to 80MPH (128KPH) at points, I know it'd do better on longer straights.

Pingzone · Mar 25, 2005

2CV + Nitros = Doors fall off?

Right?

zoxxy · Mar 25, 2005

DumpValve
That IS strange ! I know sometimes if you install a turbo on some cars then try an NA tune it lowers the HP significantly, but racing chip surely can't be the same thing ?

It isn't. If you place a turbo then a NA tune it removes the turbo.

Jondot · Mar 25, 2005

Pingzone
2CV + Nitros = Doors fall off?

Right?

Lol!

HYBRIDLVR · Mar 25, 2005

Eldorado
I think it´s strange you actually can chip a car from the 50´s.

Your right, That old car can't be chipped, It can be Jetted out i'm sure but not chipped, That could be the reason for the negative effect, It would of been better to not include a chip option at all in this case........IMO!

bfifteenv · Mar 25, 2005

I've always assumed that the computer upgrade in GT was more like a stand alone engine management system than a chip. $1000 seems more reasonable if you think of it like that IMO. Plus in real life for about that you can upgrade an old carbed car to a basic FI . I never really thought of it as just a chip...

I wonder if it hurts the ultimate HP on the 2CV but beefs up the curve in the lower revs or works better with a different combo of mods...

Probably not, probably just another error...

Biggs · Mar 25, 2005

Quote:

2CV + Nitros = Doors fall off?
Right?

- Nitrous helps Weight reduction then! Im pretty sure the doors wouldnt be missed, you could take out seatbelts too, dont think youll be needing them seen as they struggle to hit any speed close to fast!

CeltaniC · Mar 25, 2005

Eldorado
I think it´s strange you actually can chip a car from the 50´s.

Yeah my thought exactly

Pingzone · Mar 25, 2005

Biggs
Quote:

2CV + Nitros = Doors fall off?
Right?

- Nitrous helps Weight reduction then! Im pretty sure the doors wouldnt be missed, you could take out seatbelts too, dont think youll be needing them seen as they struggle to hit any speed close to fast!

Im sure the last time I saw a real life 2CV it was mainly built of cardboard covering the holes?

So i doubt they weigh much anyways :dopey:

JCE · Mar 26, 2005

Pingzone
2CV + Nitros = Doors fall off?

Right?

Reminds me when Top Gear used the Jet Engine's thrust to tear a 2CV apart...now that was funny stuff.

nitro_2005 · Mar 26, 2005

hey guys, this is what you win when you complete the 2hp-2cv cup!!!!

THE LEGENDARY PINK CITROEN 2CV!!!! And to make it even more ridiculous, i put some gold daytons on, lowered the car to it's lowest and fitted a nitrous kit!!!!

(daytons not included!!!)

superbad · Mar 26, 2005

nitro_2005
hey guys, this is what you win when you complete the 2hp-2cv cup!!!!

THE LEGENDARY PINK CITROEN 2CV!!!! And to make it even more ridiculous, i put some gold daytons on, lowered the car to it's lowest and fitted a nitrous kit!!!!

(daytons not included!!!)

Can you fit a wing to that badboy? :crazy:

nitro_2005 · Mar 26, 2005

unfortunately not...

phonypoly · Mar 26, 2005

Biggs
Quote: 2CV + Nitros = Doors fall off?
Right? Nitrous helps Weight reduction then! Im pretty sure the doors wouldnt be missed, you could take out seatbelts too, dont think youll be needing them seen as they struggle to hit any speed close to fast!

No way, you will need the seat belts to hold you in place, otherwise, when you make a turn, the G-FORCE will make you fly out of the car :scared:

, so, make your choice, no doors(to hold you in) or no seatbelts??
Luke, Luke, use the G-Force :lol:

BTW, the other guy said his car trans topped out @ 86kmh?
Howcome mine reaches 98kmh (downhill hehehe)with just nitro??
Oh yea, cos nitro pushes it more :dopey:

BTW 2, if every race has 200 points available, but it seems that no matter what, even with a stock car, this race only awards at the most 60 points, how do i get the other 140? :irked:

I wonder if ..by using economy tires?? Or perhaps, by removing 2 wheels?💡
And who said you can't chip an old car? Even an old timer.. likes chips, potato chips!!

MCX · Mar 26, 2005

bfifteenv
I've always assumed that the computer upgrade in GT was more like a stand alone engine management system than a chip. $1000 seems more reasonable if you think of it like that IMO. Plus in real life for about that you can upgrade an old carbed car to a basic FI . I never really thought of it as just a chip...

I wonder if it hurts the ultimate HP on the 2CV but beefs up the curve in the lower revs or works better with a different combo of mods...

I always thought of it as air/fuel tuning and ignition timing changes (which is all chips did before shift-points etc. were added). Would it have been that much trouble to change the text on the carb cars to "Carb Tune"? As far as I'm concerned, they could have left the little chip icon. (of course we'd all be b****ing about that)

Anyways 💡 I'm going to do some GT4 carb chip research later on.