CJ Eating Research

[Spuds725]

Ok-- this thread is to see how long we can get CJ to go without eating using various fat/muscle combinations-- If we can find the longest combination (if there is a difference) we can maximize killing vigilante sprees---

For consistency--

---make sure his stamina and health are maxxed as we don't want these to effect it and I doubt it would affect it anyway.

---I want to feed CJ exactly 10 meals prior to the trial-- feed him salad to keep from increasing his fat.

---Keep running around to an absolute minimum -- either sit in a parked car or do a killing spree or whatever in a tank/heli-- whatever it takes to pass the time. If you can leave him parked in a car somewhere while you do something else (around the house) that would be cool.

---Start the trial after he finishes eating and end it when CJ is affected-- decrease in health/fat/muscle --- don't go off of the little eating message the game gives you but you will know that its almost up when you get it.

Also for some, I'm not sure if losing all his muscle contributes to the gym glitch- I saw someone write this before, so if you don't have a 2nd memory card, you might not want to lower CJs muscle.

Here are the various combinations-- for simplicity I want to break down muscle and fat by quarters.

Also, lets do the full, 1/2, and 0 ones first-- maybe a trend will become apparent if we do these first and can halt the trial.

Please submit times rounded to the nearest minute.

Full fat, full muscle

Full fat, 3/4 muscle --49 minutes--sitting in a car--Spuds725

Full fat, 1/2 muscle

Full fat, 1/4 muscle

Full fat, 0 muscle

3/4 fat, full muscle

3/4 fat, 3/4 muscle

3/4 fat, 1/2 muscle

3/4 fat, 1/4 muscle

3/4 fat, 0 musle

1/2 fat, full muscle

1/2 fat, 3/4 muscle -- 49 minutes-- Brownthunder-- Spuds725.

1/2 fat, 1/2 muscle

1/2 fat, 1/4 muscle

1/2 fat, 0 muscle

1/4 fat, full muscle

1/4 fat, 3/4 muscle

1/4 fat, 1/2 muscle

1/4 fat, 1/4 muscle

1/4 fat, 0 muscle

0 fat, full muscle

0 fat, 3/4 muscle

0 fat, 1/2 muscle

0 fat, 1/4 muscle

0 fat, 0 muscle -- >90 minutes (based on time at 5 stars in stats), Rhino Rampage, IntegraGS-R

 

[Deli Dingo]

During the "trial," what do you want CJ to be doing? Standing still, Brown Thunder, etc.?
We start the time immediately after eating the salads, but do we end it right when he dies?

 

[Spuds725]

I would prefer he be in a vehicle but if we can repeat one with him standing to see if it affects it then we need to note it--- I have found a couple of potential standing killing places--- I think its most important that he just not be running around and using energy- I'd prefer sitting in a vehicle (hunter or rhino for instance)

I'd say its best to be when it starts to affect him-- decrease in health if he has no fat and decrease in fat if he has fat.

I will edit this into the post above-- any more questions or comments before we start to collect data???

 

[IntegraGS-R]

i'll add what i said in the other thread.. with nearly 0 fat/muscle i went about an hour and a half without eating.. however at this time i saved and went to bed.. i was in a rhino the entire time

 

[Revheadnz]

CJ can eat 10 meals before vomitting Spuds, not 6.

Edit: I just realised how stupid that could sound . Oh well, I hope everyone gets what I mean.

 

[Blake]

He can eat 10 meals every 6 hours (6 real minutes).

 

[Spuds725]

ok-- I know 6 meals was safe-- I only puked once and didn't count my meals-- I'll edit the first post and make it 10 meals--hopefully no one has done a trial yet.

I'll try to get one going tomorrow or something-- I might just get it started and video tape my game and then check the game clock to see when it start affecting him.

10 meals now everyone....thanks.

Spuds

 

[Small_Fryz]

i find about 40minutes, when i had full fat and muscles though i never actually timed this and this was before this thread so dont take this as hard stone evidence. i did however last 60min without eating and i lost no health, however i did lose all my fat and little muscle i think.

 

[waters44]

Im not being sarcastic or anything but is there really any point to this?

 

[IntegraGS-R]

Im not being sarcastic or anything but is there really any point to this?

to satisfy curiosities

 

[CrackHoor]

Im not being sarcastic or anything but is there really any point to this?

.

If we can find the longest combination (if there is a difference) we can maximize killing vigilante sprees

 

[Spuds725]

Im not being sarcastic or anything but is there really any point to this?

This kind of sprung off the killing thread and I stated the purpose of this in the first paragraph of the first post-- and I decided to spear head it.

You don't have to participate-- I'm sure some of us are curious if any of this affects CJ so we can go longer on vigilante or killing without having to stop and eat. Its kind of alot for one person to do so I thought some people would want to contribute as they play--it doesn't really take alot of effort--just feed CJ immediately prior to starting a run and note the time.

Integra-- you said "about" 90 minutes in your post-- should I include this-- I would prefer accurate data so if you are unsure at all, let me know.

I did a run today-- 3/4 muscle and 1/2 fat-- ate 10 large meat meals at burgershot right before I climbed in the hunter-- I didn't use a watch to time myself but used the game clock--- I started at 1:01 (AM) on tuesday and he lost fat at 2:00 (AM) on thursday-- 49 minutes.--- I got about 50-60 levels of brownthunder done and never left the hunter.

Updated-- the first post.

Spuds

 

[IntegraGS-R]

Integra-- you said "about" 90 minutes in your post-- should I include this-- I would prefer accurate data so if you are unsure at all, let me know.

I did a run today-- 3/4 muscle and 1/2 fat-- ate 10 large meat meals at burgershot right before I climbed in the hunter-- I didn't use a watch to time myself but used the game clock--- I started at 1:01 (AM) on tuesday and he lost fat at 2:00 (AM) on thursday-- 49 minutes.--- I got about 50-60 levels of brownthunder done and never left the hunter.

Spuds

the 90 minutes comes from my longest chase time with 5 stars stat.. i know this record was done without eating once.. and i had less than 10% fat and muscle.. however i dont know how much longer i could have gone, since the chase time ended when i saved and went to bed

doing brown thunder missions i usually got about 80-100 levels before i had to stop and eat.. this was with full muscle and less than 10% fat

 

[Spuds725]

Ok-- I'm going to put you down for >90 minutes , 0 fat and 0 muscle (even though you had a small amount)--I will likely retry this one with him in a car just to verify (I'll tape my game so I don't waste my time)--

I'm betting this will be the most--- do you remember if you ate right before and if it was alot or a little--- I might experiment with this trying different meal amounts if this proves to be the most.

This kind of makes sense-- similar to your thin ethiopian theory with doing the triathalons-- thinner less muscle should require less food-- or it could be completely random..

Thanks----

Spuds

 

[IntegraGS-R]

Ok-- I'm going to put you down for >90 minutes , 0 fat and 0 muscle (even though you had a small amount)--I will likely retry this one with him in a car just to verify (I'll tape my game so I don't waste my time)--

I'm betting this will be the most--- do you remember if you ate right before and if it was alot or a little--- I might experiment with this trying different meal amounts if this proves to be the most.

This kind of makes sense-- similar to your thin ethiopian theory with doing the triathalons-- thinner less muscle should require less food-- or it could be completely random..

Thanks----

Spuds

i saved right before, i hardly ever eat unless i'm in the middle of doing something and can't save... also, i was in a rhino the entire time

 

[Spuds725]

Went from 2200 on tue to 2300 on thursday sitting in a car the whole time-- 49 minutes again-- had 3/4 muscle still but full fat.

I'm gonna reduce my muscle for the next one.

Updated--

Spuds

 

[Spuds725]

Has anyone noticed CJ getting hungry after saving or dying-- After my last run, I was going to let my muscle go down so I drove back to SF with my fat decreasing-- saved and then it stopped going down--- I started a miniwar with the sf cops and got killed went back to my safe house and saved-- then today I started doing some street races-- I played a at least 1/2 hour--- I haven't ate since before the last trial I did and I haven't got hungry yet. I'm wondering if saving or dying resets your getting hungry clock???

 

[IntegraGS-R]

I'm wondering if saving or dying resets your getting hungry clock???

hehe yes it does, i thought you already knew that i believe getting busted does too

i go very very long periods of time without eating at all, mostly just saving and getting wasted, and i rarely get a message saying CJ's hungry

 

[Spuds725]

I never really noticed--- anyway, I'll repeat one of my trials and see if affects it at all-- if not, we can toss the eating 10 meals right before you start requirement-- just save and play.

Spuds..

 

[Blake]

I think saving does reset it, but he will get hungry more quickly after saving (If he was hungry before saving). I have not confirmed this, it just seems to be the pattern from when I've played.

Blake

 

[Spuds725]

Ok,

I'm starting to think the fat/muscle content, or even the amount you eat matters--- I will need to confirm it still but this is what I noticed today--

I reduced my fat and muscle to 0 yesterday. Today I loaded up and didn't eat...noted my day/time and started doing some races-- I got the "starting to feel hungry message" at 48 game hours (48 minutes) after I loaded--- typically when you have fat (1 minute after you get that message, you start to lose fat)--- since I didn't have fat to lose I thought my health would immediately start to decrease- this did not occur-- I played for at least 36 game hours (another 36 minutes) and his health never decreased-- I then had to hang it up....I'm thinking the game allows the same amount of time for your fat and then muscle to decrease before it affects your health whether you have the fat and muscle or not--- I will need to confirm this with a few more runs (eating or reloading and letting game go until health is affected) but I think that the limits will all be the same-- I'm guessing its going to be at least 75 minutes of game play--probably closer to 90 (what Integra got for his 5 star time)--- I'll let you guys know what I come up with and if its consistent I'll let this thread die--- I'll try to do some runs tomorrow when I'm doing stuff around the house.

Spuds

 

[IntegraGS-R]

in my last vigilante run i went almost 2 hours without eating.. at level 296 (about 294:45 game time) , i ate 2 candybars.. it wasn't until level 486 that i ate again because i just plain forgot.. this was at 296:35.. i was missing about 2/3 of my health bar, but i was still alive, and when you're in a hunter, it doesn't really matter anyway... if you really wanna cut it close, i'd say 2 hours real time without eating is possible, or at least very close to 2 hours. which means you could do about 200 levels of vigilante between eating..

 

[Blake]

That's very interesting

I wonder if this is really the case.

Blake

 

[Small_Fryz]

i only went to eat when my muscle was going down which was at vig lvl 120 or so.

someone needs to get full health and full muscle and see how long its last before health starts decreasing. Id say around 96minutes or so.

 

[seymour619]

*cough*health*cough*cheat*sneeze

 

[IntegraGS-R]

*cough*health*cough*cheat*sneeze

lol... you'll find most people on these boards stay away from cheating unless its for experimental purposes however if you know of a no traffic cheat, it would be helpful