Clubsport Pedals Left Foot Braking Mod

[MRMR37]

This is how I left foot brake with the CSP's.

💡 No Drilling or Metal Cutting required.

(Please excuse my G25 gas pedal, on Clubsports, )

Extra pedal plate is from the clubsport tuning kit, but can buy different coloured ones if its prefered...

Wing nuts make assembling easier / quicker...

The clutch pedal wire is CAREFULLY dissconnected from the PCB under the foot rest plate...
http://imgur.com/a/Bn60o#3

 

[thechosenwonton]

So... is this just for a wider pedal? I don't understand the modification; I just move the brake pedal over far left, next to the clutch, never bothers me, and I can still use the clutch. Quite possible I'm missing something though.

 

[MRMR37]

I was asked to put up some pictures, so I did,

For me, and my set of pedals at least, it has made the brake pedal smoother in feel and more solid. If I can explain....... when I push the brake pedal before, there was a movement and wobble of the pedal side to side, if only slight!! which became a distraction, Now, however, from the slightest pressure to 99% pressure it feels just right, no wobble or loose feeling, just sturdy with no distractions.
I may seem overly fussy to some but this solution works for me,
It might for others too

 

[thechosenwonton]

Ahh I see - yes wobbly anything bothers me when racing. I'll keep that in mind when I finally get my CSR-E pedals - have had the wheel for 2 weeks, can't use it! Supposed to be here tomorrow, cannot wait.

 

[jamesaevans]

Hi MRMR37,

Thank you for sharing the photos of how you have modified your ClubSport pedals, that's very interesting.

As I use the Fanatec RennSport Wheel Stand with the centre pole, and bending my left leg around the pole can become uncomfortable for long races, so ideally I would want to swap the brake and clutch pedal over. Has anyone tried this?

 

[Caz]

Hi MRMR37,

Thank you for sharing the photos of how you have modified your ClubSport pedals, that's very interesting.

As I use the Fanatec RennSport Wheel Stand with the centre pole, and bending my left leg around the pole can become uncomfortable for long races, so ideally I would want to swap the brake and clutch pedal over. Has anyone tried this?

Should be a very basic operation. Just be very.....VERY careful to not mix up the spacers.

 

[thechosenwonton]

Should be a very basic operation. Just be very.....VERY careful to not mix up the spacers.

So... what happens if you mix them up?

 

[Caz]

So... what happens if you mix them up?

They ate different lengths. You will get possmble binding in the pedals or may not be able to get them fully tightened back up.
They vary in length not only from pedal to pedal but I believe from pivot point to pivot point. Ideally you could get some steal tubing and cut it to length. Removing g the clutch pedal all together and creating your own spacers.

 

[Richvw]

Moving the spacers around does not work, the brake load cell block is wider than the clutch block.
I also don't use the clutch, I used someones old heelplate to make a big pedal, I used the 30% stronger clutch spring on full tension to get an even better feel.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23798196/Pedals.jpg

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Quite interesting!!!

What about using stiff springs for the brake and defiant with the clutch?

 

[Richvw]

What about using stiff springs for the brake and defiant with the clutch?

Sorry, not sure what you mean with this.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Sorry, not sure what you mean with this.

They are two different strengths of springs. The brake is much stiffer than the clutch. Wouldn't the left side go down at a different rate because it's softer?

 

[Richvw]

They are two different strengths of springs. The brake is much stiffer than the clutch. Wouldn't the left side go down at a different rate because it's softer?

The pedals are bolted together, both the brake and clutch become one pedal, whether you push the left side or the right side of the pedal, they move together in one smooth movement.
Using the clutch increases required pressure and gives the brake a more springy feel to it. The brake still has the same travel, but the increased pressure required combined with the potentiometer gives me a much better feel.
Try putting something accross your pedals to see what I mean.

 

[MRMR37]

Making adjustments to the pedals has been a fun project...
Its nice to adjust them to personal preferences...
I wish I could experiment more with them, as in using a wider variety of foam pieces in the brake, a softer foam piece at different lengths perhaps, more suited to "sock" usage.
I like the short throw but still find i need to wear shoes to get 100% braking. It's a shame you can't calibrate braking deadzones within GT5, a softer foam piece would be really useful for this. ( I think ? )
Anyone know where to find / buy foam rods....10mm diameter 💡

 

[Richvw]

Give this a try, set ABS on your wheel to 100%, then hold down the pedal with your foot to where YOU want 100% braking to be, then get someone to turn your potentiometer until you start to feel the vibration, your braking is now set.
Then set ABS on your wheel to between 75% & 85% and you should be happy. After you try this you should reconnect your clutch spring using the 30% less spring and see how this feels. As I said earlier, I use the 30% more spring on mine with the tension nut all the way down, I also drive in socks, 30 minutes of your time could make so much of a difference, so give it a go.

 

[fishfash]

Moving the spacers around does not work, the brake load cell block is wider than the clutch block.
I also don't use the clutch, I used someones old heelplate to make a big pedal, I used the 30% stronger clutch spring on full tension to get an even better feel.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23798196/Pedals.jpg

Excellent idea, I will give this a try, need to find some materials.

 

[RacerXX]

I just left foot brake the way I do it on the street and track. I move my left foot onto the central brake pedal. It took awhile to be faster on the track with LFB, by the time I got to sim I was already doing it all the time. It gets tricky if you need to use the clutch, in which case I may RFB then. I have a multiple racing champ friend who LFBs and then heel toes the clutch using his left foot while his right just stays on the go pedal all the time and never comes back to 0 except for when a throttle kick at corner entry is needed to add some rear brake encouraging oversteer to cancel some understeer.

 

[fishfash]

Here is my poor man's attempt. I used a Logitech G27 clutch pedal

 

[Elaphe]

I'm about to order my Clubsport 3 pedals. I plan on removing the clutch and substituying it with a footrest, since I only use sequential shift. Do you think that's very complicated? Any tutorial on how to disassemble the pedals?

 

[Elaphe]

This is what I have finally done to my Clubsport v3. The cluch is blocked with a piece of pvc so it will not move again (see the third photo). The foot rest is made with mdf (1cm) painted and covered with a kind of textured material that is used for floors. I've used this material also for the front surface. It feels a bit softer and will also protect the metal from scratches.