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Well, college is just around the corner for me (after some awful tribulations involving the Admissions bureaucracy) and for a number of other GTP members.

So, I ask: For those of you who are either at college right now or have already been there, what tips and hints and advice would you like to give to the incoming Freshman class? Please please stick to more unusual, “unspoken” advice; most of us have already been to orientation and thus have heard the lectures about not skipping classes, being involved in clubs and sports, having fun and a social life, go to the professor’s office hours, etc. etc. Give us something new, something that you wish you were told.
 
I've discovered that buying books online through sites like Amazon (through the Amazon Marketplace) and Half.com instead of the bookstore (due to a high markup over market price) on my campus has saved me a large amount of money over the years. What I do is grab the ISBN number for the book and search for it on forementioned sites.

Using D-Ring binders instead of spiral bound notebooks also has saved me money because a D-Ring binder can always be reused whereas a spiral bound notebook cannot. Plus, you can insert any handouts the professor might give you during a lecture.

Night classes are no fun, either. Avoid those if you can. You'll find yourself thinking, "When on earth does this class end?!" I'm stuck taking a four hour class once a week for the first eight weeks of the semester. I'm really not looking forward to that.

Powerpoint slides/handouts are your friend if provided by the professor. I've avoided taking notes in my technical classes due to powerpoint slides posted onto a class website. However, you should take notes to suppliment such slides if information is missing!

Those are the few that I can think of right now. I hope that helps.
 
Always remember that "one drink and then i'll go" always turns into you getting 2 hours sleep and a long day with a hang over. Also, when your about to skip studying for a test to hang out with a girl, ask yourself what would look better, this girl naked for a night or a high mark that will help you get that job you always wanted (which will lead to big bucks and more naked hotties later in life).

Another thing I learned is while in College is to have some kind of stress relief time. Your going to be cramming that brain full of information left and right, and it'll make you insane if you don't relieve some steam. Just remember that moderation is the key though or it could back fire.

Good luck man. :cheers: <-- Don't do lots of this until after your homework is done :lol:
 
Listen in lectures and take plenty of notes. Organise the notes into each class and each year so you can lay your hands on them easily and quickly. Ask if you don't understand something, even if you feel like an idiot. Chances are if you don't understand it others don't either. If you're not going with friends try to make new friends quickly. Be open and friendly to others. Don't be shy. You don't always need to buy the books they tell you to. There's plenty of information available on the Internet free. I survived only using 1 book that I bought and I bought another two that I hardly opened. You can save a bit of money there. Have a good time but don't do anything you don't want to (you don't need to smoke anything to have a good time (but it helps :lol: )). Drugs are bad. Drink is OK in moderation but don't get a reputation as the drunk one.
 
Stay away from mmorpgs no matter how good they are *cough, eve online*

Avoid having a laptop for your first year. My program mandates a laptop. I found myself so distracted by the wifi internet available in classes and freecell that I failed first year accounting.

Ratemyprofessor.com is your best friend :)

Almost every program at every school has a 'guy' or a 'supplier' who has a stockpile of old tests. Due to the wonders of technology, these are generally available online. You just need to know the people who can give you the hookup to the ftp.

DO NOT under ANY circumstances miss frosh week/orientation. It's fun and they'll introduce you to people in your program. Otherwise it's kinda hard to meet new people as the 'circles' are already starting to form. Aside from 1 person, I'm still closely in touch with the people I met during orientation.

Drugs are fine, booze is fine - take it in moderation though. Just like the mmorpg comment I made earlier, they can seriously mess you up if you're not careful. If you decide to do drugs, gofer it, but do it within a reasonable limit. Weed *does* impact short term memory and a few weeks of heavy use (ie, more than 2-3 times a week) will not be good for you when it's test time.

There may be classes you can skip altogether. Some courses, like my 2nd year finance course, I managed by only showing up for the weekly labs and the tests. The reason was because of the homework. The TA's went through some examples, I used those to figure out the rest.
 
Almost every program at every school has a 'guy' or a 'supplier' who has a stockpile of old tests. Due to the wonders of technology, these are generally available online. You just need to know the people who can give you the hookup to the ftp.

Shouldn't these be made available on the class website? They are at Strathclyde.

edit: Another thing I'd say would be to go to some of the events in the union, if there is one. Where else can you see a dog that hypnotises people or the Krankies swearing (speaking from experience :lol: ).
 
Shouldn't these be made available on the class website? They are at Strathclyde.
Those are also available, but they're usually 3-4 years too old to be of any use. At least they are at Ryerson. The 'guy' that supplies for my program has them up to date to within 3-4 semesters. Sometimes even for the same edition of the textbook.
 
Those are also available, but they're usually 3-4 years too old to be of any use. At least they are at Ryerson. The 'guy' that supplies for my program has them up to date to within 3-4 semesters. Sometimes even for the same edition of the textbook.

I suppose it depends on the institution then. On most of the individual class websites at Strathclyde there are 3 years of the most recent papers available (e.g. here) and in the central website for the University there are several (3-5 usually) years worth of past papers for all classes. You can even get the paper for the original exam in May if you're resitting in the August.
 
On the old tests ..

Most every frat/sorority will have a stockpile of old exams for use by their brothers/sisters. However, I would advise staying away from joining one your freshmen year because pledging takes up a ****load of time.

If your school has a good football team or basketball team, chances are the players take the easiest classes available. If you're in a freshmen/sophomore level class and see a good amount of football/basketball players (you'll know them by their dress - normally sweats with [insert college] Basketball/Football on them - atleast thats how it is at Tech) chances are good you're in an easy class that you can most likely either sleep through or skip. I passed my physical geology class with a 95 A and I went to class four times - the first day, three exams.

Get a comfortable computer chair. You'll thank yourself almost immediately.

That seems to be all I can think of for the moment.
 
I've discovered that buying books online through sites like Amazon (through the Amazon Marketplace) and Half.com instead of the bookstore (due to a high markup over market price) on my campus has saved me a large amount of money over the years. What I do is grab the ISBN number for the book and search for it on forementioned sites.
DEFINATELY do this. It will save you a couple thousand dollars over your college career. I wish I had started doing it sooner. You can easily spend half of what you would at the school bookstore. The cheapest ones are international editions in paperback, so you have to be a bit careful with them to make sure they last (don't leave them in your bookbag, spill coffee/beer on them, blah blah blah).

First off, MAKE FRIENDS EARLY! If you're living in a dorm, you're set. I hid in my dormroom for the first few months of college, and I regret not getting out earlier, because the second half of my freshman year was an absolute blast once I started to make friends with my floormates. Don't be shy; most of them won't bite :)

Academically, be ready to hit the ground running. You may think you've been prepared, but you haven't. College goes WAY faster than high school; the pace is incredible, especially if you're taking science/engineering classes. Don't blow off the work, and get things done early. That alone will save you lots of stress.

No matter how smart you are, there will be a class that skunks you. I haven't met anyone who aced every class in college. When it happens to you, roll with it. Sometimes life just ain't fair.

Make friends within your major. Having support makes a huge difference, and will make even the hardest classes more enjoyable and less daunting. Even if you're a shy person, it's really easy to make friends with your classmates, especially when you're all in the same boat. There was a strong camaraderie within our Chem E department, and everyone was friendly with everyone else.

Definately have fun, but know when to draw the line. Alcohol will be everywhere, and it can turn things nasty if you're not careful. It's not the vice that many make it out to be, but even the most intelligent person can make horrible decisions during a night of drinking.

College is a new experience, and when you're just starting out, it's very intimidating. Don't worry; you'll do fine. The last four years of my life were simply amazing, and really did a lot to shape me as an adult. Enjoy it and good luck!
 
Great post, kylehnat... 👍

I found that most of the random folk I met in the first few weeks and months of college, won't actually turn out to be your 'life long' buddies you're supposed to find at college - infact, within 6 months, you probably won't even recognise some of them... best place to start is to get to know your classmates that you're going to know throughout your college career - don't be shy/too quiet, everyone is in the same boat, so try to keep a balance between talking and listening - ask plenty of questions about other people and make conversation...

If you forget someone's name, don't be afraid to ask them for it again as soon as you can... it can be quite embarrassing if you forget and then have to introduce a new person to someone you already know!! In the first weeks of my Uni career, I went to the pub on my own (not a bad idea for a freshman - you do meet people!) and met an African student who happened to order the same beer as me at the bar... we got talking and he introduced himself, but I didn't quite catch his name... not really realising that it was really important to know people's names, I didn't worry about it too much, until a couple of folk from my flat block came into the bar and said hello. I suddenly realised that I didn't know the guy's name so I said "How did you pronounce your name again?", pretending that I was having difficulty pronouncing his African name... "Jeffrey..." he replied. I felt like such an idiot...
 
Am I the only one that makes friends temporarily each semester (Unless they stick with the same classes as me) and almost totally forget them the next?
 
Also, when your about to skip studying for a test to hang out with a girl, ask yourself what would look better, this girl naked for a night or a high mark that will help you get that job you always wanted (which will lead to big bucks and more naked hotties later in life).

Fun with naked ladies now or fun with naked ladies latter in life.....

....let me think this one over.... :dunce:


What course are you taking Sage?
 
:lol: He has a point... and anyway, the promise of riches may await the successful student, but as is the case with everything else in life, experience counts, and therefore it is your solemn duty to get as much practice in as possible...
 
wow things sound very different to your uni than it does over here. From what my sister and older friends told me the 1st year is a breeze as they get you used to change of life before really hammering you with work.
 
1. dont get the textbooks until you are SURE that you are going to use them and the instructor will make exams based on it....there are a lot of times when the instructor "requires" you to get the book since he/she wants you to read it...but the test will be based on the lecture materials (notes/handouts/powerpoints) and not on the textbooks...textbooks are expensive...and i am sure that you would like to spend those money on something else.....

2. dont blindly register on to electives that people claim to be "very easy"/"piece of cake"/"no need to study and get an A+"...because while some people think its easy...you may find it hard....so go for electives that are actually interest you instead....

3. pack light for school...you probably have only 5-10 minutes to travel from lectures to lectures...and if the lecture halls/classrooms are far apart....you are likely to spend all these 5-10 minutes traveling...if you pack heavily...it will take some time to pack up after class...meaning that you have less time to travel...resulting in arriving the next class late....also...if you pack heavily...it will be a pain travelling from places to places....
 
I've discovered that buying books online through sites like Amazon (through the Amazon Marketplace) and Half.com instead of the bookstore (due to a high markup over market price) on my campus has saved me a large amount of money over the years. What I do is grab the ISBN number for the book and search for it on forementioned sites.
Or find someone that is taking the same class during a different semester and split the cost with them.

Don't listen to all the bad things people say about instructors. There was one that a bunch of people changed their entire schedule around to avoid. I had her for a few classes and we got along just fine.

I'm not sure if it was mentioned earlier or not, but meet your advisor early. They are the ones (at least where I went) that look over you classes to make sure you've taken everything you need to graduate. You don't want to go through 3.5 years and then find out that you missed a class or eight.

Eating out is fine, but expensive. Cook at home.

Ask to be banned *or just ban yourself* for 4 (school) years from GTP. Unless you have more restraint than most.
 
A few things to remember:

No classes before noon.

Beer: It's your best friend.

Girls: You're a freshman so forget it.

Do you have a car? If not find someone who does, make him your best friend.

For other great tips on college life watch PCU. :sly:
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I actually did live by the no classes before noon policy and it paid off. If you don't mind one class a week that lasts 2-3 hour then night classes aren't a bad idea. You get a week to do any homework and you can stay up very late and still not oversleep. I actually did an entire semester of just night classes. I got out of class just in time to go out with friends and never set an alarm.

If that doesn't sound good then classes that start between 12-2 PM are great. If you have to take a morning class for a requirement (they love doing this to Freshmen) and you have an entire day of classes remember to schedule in a lunch time or you will find yourself not able to concentrate by the end of the day.

Learn to cook. Pizza and Raman get old fast and if you can make a decent meal every now and then you will avoid putting on the 10-30 pounds that seem to be a requirement of college. Plus, you will become very popular when you are making burgers or lasagna for all your friends. It also saves money when $10 at the grocery will last you three days instead of just one meal eating out somewhere.

On that same note, use the campus gym (if they have one). You will stay in shape and fight off a beer belly. Plus there is always a couple of hotties in the gym and you will get to know them if you are a regular.

Save all the books for your major, especially if you work in that field. Having them displayed somewhere at work looks good and they make a good reference. You can't remember every detail and bit of data, but having them nearby is always a good thing. I know people who have been working 20 years and still look stuff up in their freshman textbooks. I've even had people borrow books off of my desk to look something up.

I also recommend high-protein (or brain food, as my mom called it) foods for breakfast. Sugary ceral just makes you burn out in a couple of hours. Something like peanut butter or tuna fish sandwiches stick with you all day.

Finally, and this is important, DO NOT start a game of Risk with six other people at midnight when you have final at 8:00 AM the next morning. The only time I struggled more on a final was when I got food poisoning from 20 wings at Buffalo Wild Wings the day before a final. Professors don't like it when you have to run to the bathroom every ten minutes during the exam.

OK, one more thing: Find a good stress reliever. I heard somewhere that the greatest stress reliever out there, but no doctor will recommend it, is to "get horizontal." I don't know if it is true or not but it certainly makes me feel better. :D
 
:lol: He has a point... and anyway, the promise of riches may await the successful student, but as is the case with everything else in life, experience counts, and therefore it is your solemn duty to get as much practice in as possible...

Going to College is a learning experience, not just from the classes you take but from the whole 'life experience' side of things. I know people who went through college with their heads down and ended up with great grades. Unfortunatley they also ended up with retarded social skills. Grades will get you only so far in life.

No one should encourage you to slack off during your time at college, far too much money gets invested in you for that, but you've got to strike a happy balance. Depending on what sort of courses you are taking and what you plan on doing as a career when you finish you need to weigh-up what you really want to get out of going to college.

The most important piece of 'work' related advise i can give you is to keep in regular contact with your tutors, it will greatly help you to gauge your progress and stay upto date with course matters. It sounds obvious, but it's so easy to get caught up with other 'things' and loose touch with the important stuff. My wife is a lecturer at college and often comments that even the most 'intellectually challenged' students can get through the course as long as they keep in regular contact with tutors to stear them in the right direction and help them over any hurdles. Some of the more inteligent ones often think they can just breeze through, but loose direction and miss out on important eliments and get unstuck when it comes to exams or final course work.
 
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For other great tips on college life watch PCU. :sly:
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FINALLY!!! Someone else who has watched PCU. I friggin' love that movie.

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My font of wisdom spilleth over with more of the advice.

Roommates: Unless you've shared a room with a sibling your whole life, having a roommate is going to feel a bit strange at first. And even if you have lived with a sibling, living with a complete stranger still requires some adjustment. Here's a few things to keep in mind, all based on my experiences:

-Above all else, remember that the room is both of yours. You will HAVE to make comprimises at some point. You can't have everything you want, and neither can he.

-Most large universities send out personality surveys before they assign rooms. This helps them to avoid rooming a binge-drinking football player with a quiet honor student. For the most part, this type of system works fine, but of course its not perfect. It's unlikely that you'll get your dream roommate, but you should be able to work around your differences.

-Before you move in, call your roommate. This will help break the ice later when you actually meet face-to-face. It will also let your roommate know that you're excited to meet them and live with them. Also, at this point you and your roommate can figure out what to bring. There is no sense in both of you bringing a TV, microwave, PS2, stereo, or refrigerator. Agree on who is going to bring what (the biggest TV usually wins :)), and if there is something that neither of you has, but both will need (like a telephone), agree who is going to buy it and if you're going to split the cost.

-For room decor, make sure that your roommate is okay with your posters. In most cases, there will be no problem, but I've seem some pretty offensive stuff in people's rooms that I would not want to have to stare at all year long. Car posters are always a good, safe bet :)

-Make sure that the music in the room is a balance between both of your tastes. Give your roommate ample opportunity to play his music, even if you really hate it. Dominating the room with your music is unfair and disrespectful. Again, it is not your room.

-DO NOT HIT THE SNOOZE BAR ON YOUR ALARM CLOCK. Hitting the snooze five times is incredibly rude and disrespectful to your roommate, who probably doesn't have to get up at the same time as you. Remember, every time your alarm goes off, your roommate is woken up, too. And if your roommate is like me, it will piss them off to no end. If you can't get up on the first alarm, put your clock out of arm's reach so that you HAVE to get out of bed to turn it off. To that end, turn off your alarm as soon as you can. Don't let it ring for 20 seconds; it's annoying.

-Remember that your room is where you both have to sleep. A good rule to follow is that if you come into the room at night, and your roommate is already in bed, let him be. Don't turn on lights or make a lot of noise. If you were planning to do some homework or read, be polite and take it out to the floor lounge, or go to a library. After all, you would probably appreciate the same. Also, DO NOT bring friends into the room when your roommate is trying to sleep. No matter how quiet you all think you are, you aren't. Again, take it outside. With that in mind, realize that most college kids have roughly the same sleeping hours, but your roommate's might not quite line up with yours. So, don't plan to do anything in your room after a certain hour, even if you think that 11PM is early, and that everyone in their right mind should still be up.

-Don't turn your dorm room into a library. If you need absolute quiet to study, be ready to do it elsewhere. There are going to be a lot of distractions in the dorms, so get used to it. If you're trying to do homework, and your roommate wants to watch TV, ask him to keep the volume down, and if it still bothers you, take your work somewhere else. Your room is a living space, not a private study. Again, it's a comprimise, and one that you might not like, but you CAN do your studying somewhere else. It's much harder for your roommate to relocate the TV.

-It's better to get things out in the open, rather than to harbor resent. If your roommate does something that bugs you, let him know (but be nice about it). He might not know that what he was doing is bothersome to you. Doing this also lets him know that it's okay for him to let YOU know what is bothering him.

-Lastly, you might want to put off the girlfriend thing until you can move into a single or an apartment :). Roommates are the ultimate game-killer. It's best to wait until you can have some, uh, privacy ;). When someone else is in the room, how far will you and your girl be willing to go? Exactly :sly:.

Okay, that's it for my roommate advice. Hopefully its helpful, because it would have helped me if I had known it beforehand.

Here's some more little tidbits:

-This one seems obvious, but almost nobody does it. Before classes start, do a dry run to find where all of your classes are, and how to get there from different places. You'd be surprised how many freshman I saw at the beginning of each year who were frantically running around with maps in their hands, not knowing where to go. It was funny and sad at the same time. This will also help you to know if you're going to have to hurry every day to make it between classes in 10 minutes.

-If you can help it, be on time to class. Not for your own benefit, but for the benefit of everyone else. No matter how much you want to deny it, people who come in late ARE VERY distracting. And usually, they have very lame reasons for being late.

-I hesitate with this advice, because it's kind of bad... You CAN skip classes now and again with no recourse. If the sun is out, and you don't want to go to that 2:30 class on Friday afternoon, then don't (as long as it's not an exam day ;)). Just don't make a habit of this; it's a slipperly slope. But if you work hard, you deserve an occasional day off :).
 
I posted this at the GilesGuthrie.com forums:

Get used to visiting the admissions and payment office. Schools have a different name for it, but it's really a just glorified cashier. Colleges always seem to make errors with paperwork, type things wrong in the computer, accidentally put you on academic probation...you name it. In any case, get used to waiting on lines and jumping through hoops to get the courses you need and make sure all the pieces fit so things go smoothly.

Everything a school or university does is really about the bottom line, not academics, so hiring incompetents (just because they work at University of Somewhere doesn't mean they actually have anything more than a High School Diploma) is one way to save money. Sadly, many of the least-educated, and thus, least-paid people work in the trenches of Admissions, so get used to it.

Time management can't be overstated. Plan your work, work your plan. Although studying in high school meant reading it once, and committing it to memory, in college, it's usually about 2-3 times the studying and homework. Study groups are a great way to meet your classmates, or find out which professor to avoid next semester.

Show up to class, even though it's (usually) not mandatory. You'd be surprised how much better you'll do (usually a letter-grade better, in my case). Show up on time or earlier; it's a lot easier to get out of an emergency if they know you've attended class all the time and promptly. Schmooze with the prof/adjunct/assistant, if you can...you never know how much it helps in pinch or in your favor.

Buy the used book (whenever possible) after you've checked it over. If there's a lot of used copies, you can bet you'll get less than 25% of what you paid for it. With the exception of computer science/programming books, since they are very likely to change almost overnight, college textbooks illustrating topics that haven't changed in decades or even centuries are the biggest cost depreciation scam this side of a Daewoo. And honestly, there's no way no know if your professor is going to actually use the book you've now paid $60 for...but prepare yourself for surprises. The best bet is to buy early, and return in the first week or so (usually the policy of bookstores) if at all possible. Profs don't care if the book isn't in stock.
 
im just about to start college to take my A levels(not sure what their American equivalent is) and im taking chemistry, physics, maths and further maths and i wonderd what people tought about these classes such as are they hard is there alot of homework/coursework etc.
 
Profs don't care if the book isn't in stock.
I wouldn't go as far to say that, but professors can't really delay their lesson plans just because the book is out of stock at the bookstore. Plus, they know that most people don't buy through the bookstore anymore, so they may make an ill-advised assumption that even though the bookstore is out of stock, most of the students have the text anyway.
 
I've discovered that buying books online through sites like Amazon (through the Amazon Marketplace) and Half.com instead of the bookstore (due to a high markup over market price) on my campus has saved me a large amount of money over the years. What I do is grab the ISBN number for the book and search for it on forementioned sites.
Boy, do I feel naïve – that never even occurred to me! :dunce: Excellent advice.

What course are you taking Sage?
Well, I can’t enroll till the 22nd, but I’m shooting for the following:

Warren Writing (obligatory writing class)
Math 20 (calculus for engineers)
Chem 6 (general chemistry)
MAE 9 (C++ programming)

Colleges always seem to make errors with paperwork, type things wrong in the computer, accidentally put you on academic probation...you name it.
Yup – I haven’t even started my first day of school yet, and I’ve already been there done that. Something awry in admissions caused me to be temporarily rejected, and I had to appeal. Stupid.
 
Well, I can’t enroll till the 22nd, but I’m shooting for the following:

Warren Writing (obligatory writing class)
Math 20 (calculus for engineers)
Chem 6 (general chemistry)
MAE 9 (C++ programming)
Masochist. Where's the basket weaving? ;)
 
Well, I can&#8217;t enroll till the 22nd, but I&#8217;m shooting for the following:

Warren Writing (obligatory writing class)
Math 20 (calculus for engineers)
Chem 6 (general chemistry)
MAE 9 (C++ programming)

doesnt look like a lot of courses to me....back in the first term of my freshman year (we canadian call it 1st year instead)....i have

engl 112 (university writing)
chem 121 (structural chemistry)
phys 101 (energy and waves)
math 100 (calculus I)
biol 112 (prokaryotic cell biology)
cspw 100 (special workshop for my program)

well...i guess its just me....
 
UC might be on the quarter system. Quarters usually have about 10 weeks, and there are three of them per year. If you take 4 classes per quarter, that's 12 per year; the same as 6 classes for 2 semesters. It all ends up being the same. If Sage is taking calculus, chemistry, C++, and writing all in one quarter, that looks like a pretty challenging schedule to me.
 
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