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Message: [QUOTE="r_outsider, post: 13381087, member: 266333"] Yeah, pretty used to running with quality and effects way down anyway. The level I seem to be looking at (now that I think I've got the GPU/CPU hierarchies more or less straight, which was the real problem in the first place) would probably get what I'd consider acceptable to good but not stellar performance, which I can live with, you guys would probably find it dismal :lol:. Keep in mind I'm really comparing to consoles more than anything. Will be a prebuilt for sure, although I keep flip flopping between a desktop or maybe just getting another laptop (saw a TUF F15 with a 3060 that looked pretty good and it can be had with a 3070, although I understand ASUS throttles back the card quite a bit for battery life), even though that convenience comes with its own set of limitations, obviously. I have some heavy thinking to do and decisions to make. The more I'm thinking about it with my history, since I've clearly got something going on between my eyes and brain that can cause me some issues, the less I'm thinking VR is a good idea for me, probably best to stay away from it, at least until I can maybe try it out first. [/QUOTE]