Death in Moto 2

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To be honest I hadn't heard of peter Benz until today when I heard about the death. I saw todays crash and I don't think there is much the FIM can do about it. It's just a freak accident. Like katos crash in 03.
 
I saw this accident in slow motion on the BBC and it didn't look good for Tomizawa right from the off. It's not the kind of accident that can be prevented though. He lost the back end and got high sided. It was just very bad luck that there where two other riders so close to him that they all hit each other.

One dies, one is carried off on a stretcher but lucky and the other gets up and walks away. That's the way it goes.

I totally disagree with the idea of retiring race numbers. Why should someone in the future be denied the opportunity to use a number that means something personal to them? If you start doing things like that, there wouldn't be any numbers left you could use after all the drivers and riders that have died over the years.
 
Just heard about this on the news

R.I.P Shoya
 
Come on, people die everyday, toughen up people!

Yes, they do, but not always during a race on international live TV.

I saw the crash, he had no chance of surviving.

R.I.P.
 
RIP and condolences to the family.

Nineteen is just too early, dammit. :(
 
The thread could be titled something a bit better I think, something perhaps more respectful and less sensational.

But that's exactly what happened.
 
This thread is already touching on the larger context, and I think thats good.

The answer is that WE ALL carry around the full compliment of reactions; not just the isolated ones we post. Peter Lenz and Shoya?? ..honestly, I didnt even know that they existed -until they suddenly didnt.
 
Damn. Now I kinda know how the Senna fans felt. Requiescat In Pace.
 
I've been watching Moto2 all season along with the 125 and Premier class and immediately after the accident happened I had Tomizawa in the back of my mind through the MotoGP race, it was just such a shame to hear that he passed away and it was a big shock.

I went and re-watched the accident earlier to get a clear view of what happened, Scott Redding was very very lucky not to wind up in a worse condition after seeing how violently he landed, and it was a relief to hear that he was at least conscious, if not fairly beaten up.

Thankfully Tomizawa won't be forgotten in time, as he'll always be the man that won the first ever Moto2 race.

R.I.P :(

It also seems like Casey Stoner is leading the way in rider safety by discussing track designs: http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=7956732

Australia's Casey Stoner has attacked MotoGP track designs following the tragic death of Japanese rider Shoya Tomizawa in Sunday's Moto2 San Marino Grand Prix.

Tomizawa, 19, suffered multiple head and internal injuries when he was struck by following bikes in a sickening 240kph crash.

In the MotoGP race which followed Stoner, still fighting an ill-handling Ducati, finished a distant fifth and slumped to fifth place in the championship.

The race was won by Spaniard Dani Pedrosa on a Honda, ahead of championship leader Jorge Lorenzo with Valentino Rossi third, both on Yamahas.

Shell-shocked riders paid tribute to Tomizawa's emerging talent after they learnt that he had succumbed to his injuries at the nearby Riccione Hospital.

"He was a very funny guy, always making jokes. There is a big hole inside me," Pedrosa said.

A sad-faced Rossi, the seven-time world champion, said that "the rest means nothing when this happens."

The MotoGP riders lined up for their race, battling emotions to stay focussed, knowing that Tomizawa was fighting a losing battle for his life.

Most riders, including Rossi and Stoner, had watched the brutal crash on television as they waited for their race to follow the Moto2 event.

"I could feel it on the grid, everybody kind of knew, so I didn't need to ask - I could feel it," said American rider Nicky Hayden.

Rossi said : "I knew it was bad. I hoped only for fractures but I thought he was dead."

Stoner, the 2007 world champion, led the call for a safety review to instil a feeling of caution amongst riders.

Tomizawa was racing flat out through the fastest corner of the circuit when he ran wide over the edge of the track, spun sideways as he tried to recover and was struck by Italian Alex de Angelis and Briton Scott Redding.

"The race should have been stopped, you could see from the television that this was a crash you couldn't walk away from," said an emotional Stoner.

"Tomizawa was a rider to watch in the future, this is extremely disappointing."

Stoner says the placement of smooth tarmac run-off areas and artificial grass on track edges has taken the fear factor out of running off the track and made riders feel "bullet proof."

"The extra tarmac gives everybody an invincible feeling that they can run-off and come straight back on," he said.

"It is ridiculous, riders become too confident and without fear they ride with too much confidence and things like this can happen.

"Grass is not the best thing but if it was real grass or real dirt people wouldn't push that far.

"I was watching the race and these things can happen, it didn't get inside my head before the race and you know there is always a chance it could happen to you."

Pedrosa led every lap of a largely uneventful MotoGP race for his fourth win of the season. He is 63 points behind Lorenzo with six races remaining.
 
R.I.P. Shoya Tomizawa. Condolences to the family and friends...

I was watching the race when that happened. I was wishing for the race to be stopped because he was down on the track with others still going pass him in high speed. Thank God de Angelis and Redding survived the crash but it didn't look good for Tomizawa. The way he fell off his bike, there was not even a bit of a chance he could survive with de Angelis and Redding racing close behind him. The impact was just unexplainable...

We all know that 19 years old is indeed young but being a rider, you have to face it in ready. It can happen in anytime... At least he was doing something that he loves to which is racing.

A tragic day for MotoGP and motorsport. :(
 
I don't understand what you want me to do? I'm not going to talk in code about Shoya's death.
 
Something like Shoya Tomizawa RIP for example?
 
-response to my comment-

I did it delibratley to make point Ardius as you know. I just think it would be more of a tribute to to him to show videos of him and remember what he did than half-arsed condolances from people who probably have never heard of him.


As Nicky Hayden said when asked whether the GP race should have taken place he said he would've it was him. I just think hollow synpathy from peoiple on here is more of an insult to his family and friends.

I won't say anymore as I've already said too much.
 
I did it delibratley to make point Ardius as you know. I just think it would be more of a tribute to to him to show videos of him and remember what he did than half-arsed condolances from people who probably have never heard of him.


As Nicky Hayden said when asked whether the GP race should have taken place he said he would've it was him. I just think hollow synpathy from peoiple on here is more of an insult to his family and friends.

I won't say anymore as I've already said too much.

Who are you to judge whether or not someone's condolences/sympathy are "half-arsed" or "hollow"?

Nice assumption there....

Anyway, i do not keep up with Moto2, but I did get teary-eyed thinking about his death yesterday. I just think it's sad whenever someone dies in a motorsport. One minute, their out on the track doing what they love and entertaining us, the fans. The next minute, they're dead. And him being only 19yrs old makes it even worse. I truly feel for his family/team and wish them the best.

R.I.P, Shoya Tomizawa.
 
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Who are you to judge whether or not someone's condolences/sympathy are "half-arsed" or "hollow"?

Nice assumption there....


Anyway, i do not keep up with Moto2, but I did get teary-eyed thinking about his death yesterday. I just think it's sad whenever someone dies in a motorsport. One minute, their out on the track doing what they love and entertaining us, the fans. The next minute, they're dead. And him being only 19yrs old makes it even worse. I truly feel for his family/team and wish them the best.

R.I.P, Shoya Tomizawa.

Seriously. Not mention that was a good way to ruin the tone of the thread...
 
A waste of a young life, 19 is way too young to die. It's a real loss for the sport, especially seeing as he was also a very fast rider.
 
I just think it's sad whenever someone dies in a motorsport. One minute, their out on the track doing what they love and the next minute, they're dead.

I wouldnt post a 'RIP' message for someone unrelated to my personal interests. But it feels appropriate when theres a common bond like love of motorsport, even to the point of shedding a tear. Dying while racing is heroic in a way that, say, dying of cancer in hospital, is not. They are both equally DEAD, its true, but they represent different things to our imaginations.

But I also believe in an afterlife, so the whole issue is basically moot.
 
This was just mentioned on BBC news. However pretty much the entire segment was all about Scott Redding. That is such blatant bias. Yes he may have been seriously injured but Shoya died and got barely any mention at all.
 
Start Sport's motorsport news programme called Engine Block made a little tribute to him, and seriously it was heart touching :(
 


About the part 2, I think the guy will post it soon.
 
I wonder where Shoya is right now, it makes me wonder about life.

how a human can be living one minute, then the next....gone from this world......it makes life seem less important than we think it is.
 
Watched the race live and I saw wright away it was bad news. Dissapointed at the organizers, they should stop the race!

R.I.P Tomizawa
 
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