I'm just wondering what your defintion of a hot hatch is. It seems to change with each new generation of cars. Obviously the car is has to be a hatchback but what else? Is it horsepower? Weight? P/W? I would consider a hachiroku (120hp) a hot hatch but its got about the same hp as a base civic. I don't think a hatchback with 120hp sold right now would be considered a hot hatch at all.
Lots of people seem to think my current car (SVTFocus) is a hot hatch but I personally feel its more of a warm hatch and its brawnier brother the Focus RS as a real hot hatch. The SVTFocus class would also include the Civic Si, Renault Clio Sport and VW Gti(150-200hp)
Next class up would be the the cars that break 200hp like the Focus RS and the Civic Type R. Both very fine cars, I would have definately spent the extra 5k for an RS and I'm sure many many Honda Fanboys would have hoked up the 20k for a CTR. I would consider these cars to be the definition of a hot hatch.
But then they have the Clio V6 and the VW R32, both cars i would consider in a totally different class but people seem to categorize these as also hot hatches?!?
So is a VW Gti considered a hot hatch as well as the R32 even tho one is obviously superior to the other? Anyway, I wanted to see what you guys would define a "hot hatch"
Lots of people seem to think my current car (SVTFocus) is a hot hatch but I personally feel its more of a warm hatch and its brawnier brother the Focus RS as a real hot hatch. The SVTFocus class would also include the Civic Si, Renault Clio Sport and VW Gti(150-200hp)
Next class up would be the the cars that break 200hp like the Focus RS and the Civic Type R. Both very fine cars, I would have definately spent the extra 5k for an RS and I'm sure many many Honda Fanboys would have hoked up the 20k for a CTR. I would consider these cars to be the definition of a hot hatch.
But then they have the Clio V6 and the VW R32, both cars i would consider in a totally different class but people seem to categorize these as also hot hatches?!?
So is a VW Gti considered a hot hatch as well as the R32 even tho one is obviously superior to the other? Anyway, I wanted to see what you guys would define a "hot hatch"