did PD create this game in such a way that..(matched pp equal?)

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I'm starting to wonder, if , say, take any car, make it all same pp, let's say 550pp, that if tuned to your driving style, driven around your favorite track, in my case Nurburgring Nordschleife, that lap times come to the same in the end?

My theory will be disproven, if someone can find me a 550pp tune, that can lap the Nur in exactly six minutes or less. So far, I have several 550pp tunes that lap in approx range of 6:15s
 
To be on the same page are you using racing soft tires.
 
For the most part they will be similar, with exceptions for some cars.
 
EAO-HarleyMan
To be on the same page are you using racing soft tires.
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yes, I do use racing softs because I like to drive aggressively fast, taking car to its limits around the bends, unless I make a room that restricts tire compound.
 
I'm currently test-driving all of the cars in standard-specification with the same tyres. I'm a WRS division 2 driver, so although I might not be the fastest out there, I'm confident that the lap-times I settle for in every car are comparable in effort. I'm testing on 4 different tracks from very fast to tight and twitchy and from my experience so far (I'm about half way (=500 cars) through) the given PPs are an indication, but by no means are they the direct result of actual performance on the track.

You have a few cars which perform way out of their PP-range (up or down), but most will be in the +/- 20 PP-range.

From what I've seen, PPs are calculated by some formula involving power, weight, aerodynamics and probably also torque. What else is being factored in, nobody except PD knows.

Apparently that formula has some weaknesses as it will give ridiculously high PP-figures for cars with low power and even lower weight, like the Ginetta G4 or the Lotus Elan, just to name a few I have tested. And there's no way you will bring those cars up to the speed of equal PP-cars just by fiddling with the chassis, because they are simply lacking the necessary power.
 
I think a track like nurb keeps those cars together.

Now if you do it on Spa. Example : A 560pp Bmw m5 (Full weight high HP)can whoop a 560pp Mazda furai (low weight low HP) . The mazda being so light has no HP for the straights.
 
What car are you using at 550pp to do 6:15s lap times. Sounds like you already have a very fast 550pp car tune.
 
snowgt
I'm currently test-driving all of the cars in standard-specification with the same tyres. I'm a WRS division 2 driver, so although I might not be the fastest out there, I'm confident that the lap-times I settle for in every car are comparable in effort. I'm testing on 4 different tracks from very fast to tight and twitchy and from my experience so far (I'm about half way (=500 cars) through) the given PPs are an indication, but by no means are they the direct result of actual performance on the track.

You have a few cars which perform way out of their PP-range (up or down), but most will be in the +/- 20 PP-range.

From what I've seen, PPs are calculated by some formula involving power, weight, aerodynamics and probably also torque. What else is being factored in, nobody except PD knows.

Apparently that formula has some weaknesses as it will give ridiculously high PP-figures for cars with low power and even lower weight, like the Ginetta G4 or the Lotus Elan, just to name a few I have tested. And there's no way you will bring those cars up to the speed of equal PP-cars just by fiddling with the chassis, because they are simply lacking the necessary power.
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Yes exactly. Assuming they are using torque in their calculations it would explain a great deal of some of the discrepancies in cars at the same PP. Torque is dramatically overrated. I almost pay no attention to torque at all because I've never found it to make any difference in overall performance.

Downforce is also a factor, and again, if PD has modelled some cars realistically like the NSX/s which create their own downforce at higher speed, I don't believe that is factored into pp either. This could be part of what makes cars like the NSX perform over their given pp level.
 
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