Different Cars with Similar PP

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Wanting to have more competitive races with a varied range of cars rather than using the Recommended Garage.

If I had a Ferrari 430 with 500PP and a Honda Civic with 500PP, as much as the performance specs may be close, racing with these two cars won't result in a close race....or will it??

If I wanted to have a 400PP or 450PP race, would increasing weight or decreasing power (and vice-versa) have the same effect with the selected cars?

Can anyone provide a list of cars that are good competition for each other?
 
I think what your asking for is what is the best cars at certain pp ranges. I no 500pp the nsx and BMW m3 csl are tops there. As for others I'm not sure. Weight increase or power decreasing really depends on the course and track. I'm assuming you would be setting up a car specifically for example 500pp and would add weight or under power during testing of it and see what is best before going online into a race against others.
 
Well I don't have a list but just use your head. Ferrari vs. Lamborghini, 4cyl vs. 4cyl, Nissan vs. Toyota, etc. Then go by PP.
 
FamousTetsuo
Well I don't have a list but just use your head. Ferrari vs. Lamborghini, 4cyl vs. 4cyl, Nissan vs. Toyota, etc. Then go by PP.
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You would think that but I beat a new McClaren in my Honda van at 450pp. There are lots of cars that are much worse but turn out better it's sorta luck on what car happens to be good at what pp
 
^^ That's exactly what I thought. PP doesn't look at cylinders of cars (not that we know of) but more so HP and Weight.

As much as I want to compare with real life races (GT Production cars where there are different manufacturers therefore different size engines and cylinders etc...) there's no point in GT5. Going to have to slug it out and test away with what works and doesn't work.
 
PP doesn't look at cylinder because that does matter. If the PP is the same, in general the car should perform close to each other.
 
I did some comparison tests of cars at 400, 450, 500, and 550PP and posted the results in the tuning forum. Search there to find them.
 
It's such a crap shoot. There are always cars that do better at certain PP levels than others. It's such a long and complicated list and a lot of it depends on driving skill, tires...etc.
 
Why on Earth would PP look at number of cylinders? What would be the point of that? Should PP also look at what color your car is and if it has leather seats?
 
7Sins
If I wanted to have a 400PP or 450PP race, would increasing weight or decreasing power (and vice-versa) have the same effect with the selected cars?
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There is a fair bit written about this already. In short, choking back a naturally high PP car to compete with a naturally lower PP car usually means the former is slower.

In terms of how PP is calculated, its quite inconsistent - but HP, Torque and Weight are all contributing factors. High torque cars (Ford GT for example) are hugely handicapped by PP.
 
The PP system in GT 5 is useless in a lot of cases, not the best thing to rely on, like in your case.
 
G36E
The PP system in GT 5 is useless in a lot of cases, not the best thing to rely on, like in your case.
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Exactly

you could be in a full on race car, with HP detuned to meet PP and get beaten by a bunch of production cars

pp system, you need to get used to it. know what cars get hit hard by pp and what cars dont.

in my experience, production rwd cars seem to benefit the most. awd and race cars get hit hard.
 
G36E
The PP system in GT 5 is useless in a lot of cases, not the best thing to rely on, like in your case.
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Useless it is not. Perfect it is not.

PP is the easiest way to get a close race, and it's good enough so that a host or event organizer can rely on it pretty much alone to make a race competitive between somewhat similar cars.

There's an imbalance between race cars and road cars, but that's not surprising given how different they are.
 
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