Digital Noise

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I recently purchased a Samsung UA40D5000 40" Series 5 LED and its a pretty good TV for the price. I noticed that it has some digital noise filters (mostly for lower quality video to clear up the image a bit) and decided to turn them off while fiddling with settings.

I noticed the texture clarity of games on the PS3 was greatly improved as everything was sharper and less blurred, a side effect however was in GT5 there is a lot of digital "noise". In dark areas its very patchy and grainy and although the textures are clearer the overall image quality is annoying. Its mostly visible in cockpit, when you buy a car (the dark screen where it drives forward) and when its dark during racing.

If anyone else has a similar TV or has HDMI on a 1080p screen and can say weather they get similar digital noise with any filters off than please tell me. I am wondering if its just GT5 or my HDMI cable needs replacing.

Every other game looks much better with these filters off, especially GTA IV, it would be a shame if GT5 were to be the only one with issues and if I had to go without texture clarity just to get rid of the digital noise.

-Thanks, Ben
 
When I read the thread title I first thought it'll be about the engine sounds in the game xD xD

I have an older Samsung 40" (LE40B650) and have no such noise in darker areas in GT5.

I do have noise when I watch a Blu Ray with not so great picture quality (like "Machete" i.e.) and the brightness turned up.

It occurs only with a few Blu rays, the picture settings are fine for every other source (I'm a trained radio & tv technician), so I think my issue depends only of the source.

Maybe you should reset everything to default first before you keep on trying and maybe just making it worse? after that you may try to tweak everything a little in small steps

cheers
 
I have a 37" Samsung and I haven't noticed the noise, It may be your settings for colour, contrast, etc.

make sure you have it set on Just Scan so the tv doesn't scale your picture, for pure 1080P. Also if your TV has game mode enable it,

when not in Just Scan and Game mode some built in filters are automatically enabled, at least they are on the two tvs I have consoles connected to.
 
I have reset the TV completely a few times and updated the firmware. I have the TV set to Game mode for my PS3 but still the same digital noise problem. I Have tested the console on 3 different brand HDMI cables (a couple of brand and one generic).

It seems if I drop the brightness of the TV it isn't as bad, only a little grainy, no major patterns of noise mostly because its too dark to see them. That's the problem now, being an LED TV the back light steps down heaps. This means on the PS screen (the one with "quit game", "turn of controller" and "turn of system") the white text is grey because there is so much dark area. Just the problem with having an LED TV and HDMI I guess.

I'll buy a higher quality HDMI cable some time and see of that gets rid of some of the patchy noise in the image (don't seem to have this issue with my Laptop and HDMI, might just be a PS3 thing as well)
 
I work for Directv and i deal with HD most of the times. The problem may not lie in the cable. I have put in of our 'free' cables in a customers house after comparing a 100$ cable to it. You aren't going to see the difference with the naked eye. I would definitely be on the phone with the manufacturer and possibly have someone out to check it. The other possibility is the output on your ps3 is goofy and not putting the right information out to the tv. We had this issue for a while with samsung not recognizing Directv hdmi signals. You may have to do a little leg work to get this resolved through Sony and samsung.
 
It's been a while since I've been able to plug my thread :D Getting some legs out of this one..

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=118469

I have seen this same noise on TV's, often newer TV's with the brighter settings. Adjusting the color settings properly should clean up the picture.

As CProgar said, the cable won't change anything, and don't worry about game mode.
 
Thanks for the link Lion-Face. I seem to have gotten rid of most of the noise just by making the picture a little darker. The only problem with that is, being an edge lit LED TV, the back light turns down when there is only a small amount of bright area on screen. This means what is left is very dull. That was the main reason I had the brightness set a little higher, also, so I could see the detail in the cockpits of cars in GT5.
 
Yes, I have noticed noise especially on courses such as SSR7 on the sky mostly. I have a digital noise reduction setting on my Sony Bravia, but if I use it at the fullest setting, it creates ghosting trails. This is due to my LCD being an older model (2008) and being only 60hz. Even with the noise reduction on high, it can still be seen to a degree and then I still have to deal with the ghosting. I end up turning it down to low and dealing with the extra noise. The noise is a really small price to pay considering how great GT5 is otherwise.

It really seems like it has to do with your tv model and the game you are playing. GT5, for example, I notice noise a lot more prevalent compared to other games. Of course I do tend to like playing my games at a fairly bright setting and higher color as that is what I have become accustomed to. Maybe I wouldn't notice it as much either if I lowered some of this to mask the noise within the game.

This reminds me of masking other issues with other games I have had like Dirt 3 as well. That game, has a over abundance of a blue tint to it, especially at night racing, so I had to adjust my blue bias on my color setting during dark scenes to almost -10 to get it to mask that issue as it was rather annoying to me lol.
 
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Go to picture settings and advanced settings, turn 'dynamic contrast' off. That will stop the backlight changing its brightness and give you a more consistent picture. LCD's have been doing dynamic contrast for years, I'm not a fan of it. Turn that off, set the backlight brightness manually.

@MattZR1
Set to cinema mode and turn off all noise reduction and any other post processing effects the tv has. 60hz or 120hz isn't going to change how much ghosting the tv has, no matter what the marketing says. My 2 Sony Bravia's are from '06 and '07, both 50hz 720p model tv's and perform beautifully when setup correctly.
 
sutobe
When I read the thread title I first thought it'll be about the engine sounds in the game xD xD

I have an older Samsung 40" (LE40B650) and have no such noise in darker areas in GT5.

I do have noise when I watch a Blu Ray with not so great picture quality (like "Machete" i.e.) and the brightness turned up.

It occurs only with a few Blu rays, the picture settings are fine for every other source (I'm a trained radio & tv technician), so I think my issue depends only of the source.

Maybe you should reset everything to default first before you keep on trying and maybe just making it worse? after that you may try to tweak everything a little in small steps

cheers
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I have the same TV and notice it a lot?!

When changing wheels in GTauto look at the brake discs for example!
 
sutobe
When I read the thread title I first thought it'll be about the engine sounds in the game xD xD

I have an older Samsung 40" (LE40B650) and have no such noise in darker areas in GT5.

I do have noise when I watch a Blu Ray with not so great picture quality (like "Machete" i.e.) and the brightness turned up.

It occurs only with a few Blu rays, the picture settings are fine for every other source (I'm a trained radio & tv technician), so I think my issue depends only of the source.

Maybe you should reset everything to default first before you keep on trying and maybe just making it worse? after that you may try to tweak everything a little in small steps

cheers
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I have the same TV and notice it a lot?!

When changing wheels in GTauto look at the brake discs for example!

I have it in game mode.

Btw if your a technician why are you turning up brightness which would skew the gamma and therefore the colours and whole image?

As Lionface and Tweakmonster say turn every single picture enhancement off, they do more bad than good and add to lag, turn game mode on. (Setup > General > GameMode. Not in Picture settings menu)

eh? 2 posts?
 
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