Do you think things are ment to be??

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Do you think things happen for a reason??

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 64.7%
  • No

    Votes: 6 35.3%

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What kind of a person are you, do you think things happen for a reason? or do you think that its all a big coincidence??

I for one think that there is a reason for everything that happens, I had a big argument today with this chick today at work she says that is a copout I dont think so.
 
I have a mix of thoughts on this - Endocytosis is right, stuff just happens (and we've seen plenty of this of late), but I also think you've got huge scope to get off your backside and 'make' things happen - which is probably your 'things happen for a reason'.

I also think there's something to 'karma', or bad things happening to bad people. I don't think it's anything spiritual - I think people who are bastards simply affect how others subconciously deal with them, until eventually something bad happens to them.
 
Saying 'things happen for a reason' is something altogether different from saying 'things are meant to be'.

The first one, I would say, is decidedly true, while the second one is false. I will also back what vat_man said above.
 
What you mean like me being the son of one of the best mechanics in the nation, not having to move once, my parents not devorced, and all that?

It's luck, and I've got plenty of it initialy, but in the present, well, no we don't, not much.
 
Do I think things are meant to be? IMO, no. I don't beleive that we are all walking down a path of predetermined events. This would imply that a higher being is at play here.

Do "I" think that things happpen for a reason? IMO, yes. I think that everything happens for a reason, but not exactly how you might be getting at.
There are consequences for all of our actions and in my opinion there is no higher being that has had a say in this matter. We all make our own decisions, and our decisions are based on the situation that has presented itself, which in turn, was created by others making choices and decisions for themselfs. And a event or occurence that has happened to me, you or someone that you know, has happened because someone else before you made a choice of there own.
If a drunk driver is behind the wheel and careens through the median and into oncomming traffic and kills you, was it a god that decided this ages ago that, at that moment in time, it was your time to go? IMO, no. It was due to a chain of events and decisions made by that person to get drunk and drive his/her vehicle. It was there decision based on the situation that was presented to them at the time, no preset path was followed. You are able to change the path that is taken by making rational decisions, but each and every decision, rational or not, will lead to a different outcome that will effect someone else down the road. Maybe not today or maybe not tomorrow, or maybe not at all, but there is an effect or a possibility of an effect.
In essence, we all make decisions based on our current situations. And our current situations were all made by our own choices and in part by others making choices before us.
 
for both reasons.

a few things just happend.
example:when you're walking in the midle of street,and you find a $50$ bill.


and another happends because you (or someone) make it happend. if you go crossing the street,and one drunk driver hit you. that no just happend,that happend cuz a 🤬 stupid don't know how or when stop to drink.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
I have a mix of thoughts on this - Endocytosis is right, stuff just happens (and we've seen plenty of this of late), but I also think you've got huge scope to get off your backside and 'make' things happen - which is probably your 'things happen for a reason'.

I also think there's something to 'karma', or bad things happening to bad people. I don't think it's anything spiritual - I think people who are bastards simply affect how others subconciously deal with them, until eventually something bad happens to them.

Pretty close to word for word on that one.

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I would say that "stuff that just happens" is not just "stuff that just happens". We have to realize that it's happening because someone or something else is making it happen. Big example: the Towers tragedy didn't "just happen". It happened for a reason - someone made them fall down. Non-human intervention example: volcano errupting ... well if you understand geo-sciences, you KNOW how/why/when this is going to happen - and you know it's happening for a reason.

Infact, I find reasons for everything. I have some uncanny ability to view most situations from other people's point of view - which I can't explain. Some call it a spiritual gift ... call it whatever you want, I think I have this ability.

I believe FATE is the word you're looking for to describe "stuff that just happens". I don't believe in 'love fate', the devorce rate proves me right on that one. I also don't believe people 'just fall in love'. If you're serious about it, it's something you have to develope. And fate such as ... not getting hit by a car because you decided to drive a bit slower around the corner ... well that's just dumb luck. But at the same time, I give a little credit to karma / supreme-being. I think God is looking out for me in most cases.

But then again ... **** happens.

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~LoudMusic
 
Damn! Even split...

I voted yes... but with one caveat: the "reason" is only apparent in hindsight. There is no reasoning force making things happen unbeknownst to us. We do it all, then we come up with the "why". Most of it is lies. But hey...
 
No. Things happen. They can mean something in the future if you make them. But......things arent 'meant to happen' and such.
 
Originally posted by milefile
Damn! Even split...

I voted yes... but with one caveat: the "reason" is only apparent in hindsight. There is no reasoning force making things happen unbeknownst to us. We do it all, then we come up with the "why". Most of it is lies. But hey...

With a wopping EIGHT votes .... :rolleyes:

~LoudMusic
 
What kind of things?

The Faucet turned on and water came out. Why? Because I turned the water on because I was thirsty. Yeah I think things happen for a reason. I also think that sometimes were the subjects of circumstance and other times things just happen because actions are in motion, and we get caught in it's way.
 
I would vote, "Other" but I think more things happen for a reason than not..
 
Concidence is when we've factored everything together, and things still don't make sense.

I think you have to work make things "meant to be"; in this life, good things happen, bad things happen, and sometimes, nothing much happens. But as long as you're n the field of time and space, you can never truly work everything out as a master plan because too many actions are dependent on other actions.

So no, I don't things are absolutely meant to be...unless you're enjoying your life after kicking back a fine dram of scotch.
 
For every action, there is an equal reaction.

Turn the key in a lock, the lock opens. Put the key in the ignition, it turns on...or doesn't turn on...
 
All events have antecedents, it's just that sometimes you have to look a bit harders to trace them.
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic


With a wopping EIGHT votes .... :rolleyes:

~LoudMusic

I love the "roll eyes" smiley. It is so simple, so rudimentary, base and general :rolleyes:. See?

I guess the more people that think something, the more valuable and/or true it is. Oh no, wait a minute... that's just mob mentality... like cud-chewing herd animals.

The common herd animals have no need for meaning. They are eliminated by predation and communicable disease, replaced too fast for meaning to develop and be meaningful. They need large groups to validate their existence and make it possible; they need safety in numbers. In these types, individuality is a liability to the group.

Humans Beings are herd animals. Consensus is paramount to them and things like "number of votes" invariably becomes some kind of definative factor, as if it showed something other than what is most common, most base, most unremarkable about them. It just tells the mob what things mean, and what should mean something... for those who need to be told that.

As this thread grows it's irony becomes more obvious :lol:
 
Originally posted by Pako
What kind of things?

The Faucet turned on and water came out. Why? Because I turned the water on because I was thirsty. Yeah I think things happen for a reason. I also think that sometimes were the subjects of circumstance and other times things just happen because actions are in motion, and we get caught in it's way.

That's a fair comment - you have events you can have direct effect upon (e.g. I studied hard, and I passed the exam), and events that had reasons you had no part in that you get caught up (e.g. bloke driving down road, spills coffee in lap, loses control of car - you, standing at bus stop, get hit by that car) in, that can appear totally random.

I think it is this intersection of otherwise unrelated events that toleman19 was thinking of when he started this thread.
 
Well, I guess, there must be a reason why you were born.

Honestly, I don't really buy into this fate thing. I want to decide my future--I hope it's not already set in stone.
 
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