Does A-spec have the AI bug?

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Having done alot of long AI races, I notice the cars tend to start pitting every lap as they wear the drivers out. This bug usually starts at about 5 hours.

I've driven 1000km of Suzuka and 9 hour Tsukuba myself but haven't really noticed it then (possibly because I tuned down my car to match real world specs), but I've just started a 24hr race. Mostly just to get the trophy. Pathetic, I know, but will they exhibit the same behaviour in A races eventually? Do I need to push hard? Or will the others start doing stupid things at some point?

I'm currently yoyoing between 1st and 2nd as I can go longer with fuel and look after my tyres better, so I could probably make up time for a solid 1st, but I'm already forced to 1/2 drive like it's a sprint race. It's not fun, or in the spirit of a 24hr race. And darkness is coming, it will be much more enjoyable to drive the car to the best of *its* ability rather than my own.

What will the other entrants do?
 
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Which car are you using for the 24hr race? If you're blowing away the competition, try using an underpowered or inferior car to your competition. They may have changed the AI to allow drivers to use this type of car.
 
That wasn't the question.

For the record though, I'm using a Mazda 787B 'de-tuned' to real world specs as the #55 Herbert machine was in 1991 (based on top speed, and race lap time; as far as I can tell at least, this info is hard to find). I am by no means 'blowing them away'. It's a ridiculous effort just keeping up, and the real Mazda only won in 1991 because other faster cars broke down. Something I'm hoping this bug in GT5 will completely by accident, model for me.

"Two wrongs make a left."
 
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model for me
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Like a little turn on the catwalk? I'll pass.

:lol:

Sorry, I didn't have anything constructive to add but this just jumped out at me.
 
*blank look*

So anyway, for those who are trying to find a real answer to this later, it's about 22:30. The Toyota GT1 has already started circling at 'no fuel' rate. It's a bit odd, because the normal AI bug allows them to drive at full speed, just for 1 lap. This guy is acting as if he forgets to put any fuel in or something. I caught him at Porsche curves once while needing a refuel myself, so I stayed behind to watch. As soon as he gets out, he stays at 60km/hr.

In yet another genius PD move, suspending the race bans you from seeing replays, so I'll never be able to find out exactly why he's doing it. If anyone can manage to drive for 6+ hours straight, start this race, watch the replay & let us know.

Might as well turn this into some sort of race blog while I'm at it, eh?...

My last stint involved something rather scary too - my lights dimmed. To the point that I could not drive at speed. I tried to research if this is a known bug, but apparently everyone has their TV/Monitor setup so wrong, I couldn't tell. Since mine has at least been vaguely calibrated, I can think of only 4 reasons:

- Game is broken.
- It started raining heavily, it's trying to model that. Badly.
- It models a failing electrical system.
- It some weird human trait I've never heard of before that *suddenly* makes you nearly blind in the dark, despite being in it for a good 2 hours beforehand.

I'll let you figure out the most likely ones. Hopefully, the pit guys/game suspend-reset will fix it before my next stint.

I discovered there is no damage at all, even in these high level races, despite what the sony fanboys made such a fuss over. Heavily sideswiped a wall a couple of times because of the rain. Didn't matter.

Currently 4th. I lost 2 places because my steering wheel reset it's extents on the last restart. Full accelerator only allowed me up to 4th gear. I've seen this bug before, but in my determination, I discovered if you pull over, unplug it and let it recentre itself, you can continue. The wheel is a Logitech MOMO for the record, but it's never done that connected to my PC, so must be a game/PS3 bug. In retrospect, you could probably pause it without having to pull over and lose ground.

I'm getting quite used to counting down from 8 for the major fuel numbers on the Mazda 787B. Every time it does those pointlessly irritating sector beeps, I say the major number out loud. It helps immensely to remember it. At 0, 60 minor units will give you a whole lap. I've managed to run it as close as 5. Worked like a charm. I suspect this bug is caused by archaic measurement systems. Namely gallons, or pounds or whatever those cavemen use, since it says on the panel clearly, that 7L is the minimum amount for a lap at Le Mans, and the tank holds 100L, not 85.

Best laptime: 3:33
Current laptime: 4:20
 
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Another 2 stints, the Toyota GT1 is back up to speed. I think he's stopped pitting every lap too. Hmm.

Sure is cosy in a coupe at night.

4th
Current laptime 4:17
 
Wait, it rained during the race?


That's probably your answer. He wasn't out of fuel. He was repeatedly coming into the pits because he was on the wrong tires for the conditions, and because of how wet the track was fell into a sort of no-man's land, he was repeatedly going out on track with the wrong tires. It happens on occasion in the Dream Car Championship (particularly at Monza), though they usually only screw it up twice at most there.
 
Augh! My eyes!

Could be, but that doesn't explain the 'no fuel' speed. I suppose if his tyres are worn to the belts... this game seems to model that as 'your tyres have an internal structure of solidified personal lubricant'.

Finished the race. Aside from that problem, no one did anything dumb, so the answer to the original question is: no. It looks alot like they disable the entire 'hot'/'cold'/energy thing, as I noticed my closest competitors screaming around after a tyre change, but then start pootling around like it was a sunday as they wore their tyres out too fast. Makes for interesting strategy.

Managed to claw my way back up to 1st in the rain. They're not so good with it. And when I could actually see in the daylight, my times improved by over 10s. Amazingly, it stopped raining 4 hours from the end, but I just managed to hold on.

1st
Best laptime 3:32 (got a great tow down Hunaudieres)
Last laptime 3:37

Where is my fancy Rolex?!

Let's review: Driving *every* *single* *second* of a 24hr race? No thanks, I think I'll go back to setting up 4hr stints in 'Arcade' mode. Which is less arcadey than the main thing. Was that meant to be irony, PD? Or are you just stupid.
Of course, 4hrs online can be managed too, but who doesn't have ADD these days? :P
 
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Addendum about the night visibility:

After some tests I realised the blindness was caused by the crappy way the rain/light is rendered, and the windscreen wipers not covering enough of the windscreen.

The parts I was needing desperately to see were the edges of the track. But as the wipers don't cover that area in the 787 (prototype/group c coupes having very convex windshields), and several other bits of brokeness in the game (like the headlights being aimed wrong), I thought it was a lighting problem. Well, it still is, partly, but I couldn't see this in the dark before.

Since it was fine up to about 90% rain, it obviously only really sticks on the windshield and dampens the lights when it gets near to 100%.
 
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