Does your GT5 look near photo-realistic??

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If so, can I ask plz what kind of TV / settings you're using?

I found this video of the F1 car (below), and visually it looks great, very realistic. My GT5 though, looks much more like the second video below, ie. not very photo-realistic and very 'gamey', if you know what I mean.

My tv is a few years old now, Samsung R87, and only does 720p. Maybe I need an upgrade to a 1080p system?

Anyway, does your GT5 look anything like the F1 vid? If so, what kind of setup have you got??

Thanks in advance!

http://www.youtube.com/v/kZppt_xiS5g

http://www.youtube.com/v/3E1d3nH3XvQ
 
In my opinion, the less saturation and contrast, the more realistic. While vibrant colors, rich blacks and bright whites make for a very pretty and polished look, it's not very very realistic.

It's hard to judge from youtube videos though, because all computer monitors a different. What you see on your screen is probably different to what I'm seeing on mine.
 
Use HDMI. You'll get best results. Try it with either "Full RGB" or "Limited" in the system settings. One will get you more "rich" colors while the other a little more bland. I prefer Full RGB in my opinion.
 
Yeah, I think it was just the colour/brightness settings.

In my opinion, Gran turismo looks very pretty with higher colour/contrast, But I somehow enjoy it better with lower colour settings, and low brightness on my t.v... I watch alot of movies, and generally keep it at those settings because the movies (I like) often look better with lower colour.

1080p/720p wont effect realism, only resolution (If that even makes sense).. But 1080i can reduce realism, just because of the less dynamic movements.
first try to get an Hdmi, get one around $15-$20, nothing over (cause theres no general performance differences), it will also last you long, Who knows, maybe you decide to get a 1080p tv in the future, with Hdmi (The now-almost standard in video/audio cables) you can use it again to support 1080p.

second: The only thing that can be done other than that is to go to your t.v. settings:Remember this is all based on opinion.
Sharpness, This is huge. I generally find if the sharpness on the tv is too high, it looks pixelated and hard to see.. Whilst when there isn't enough sharpness it makes detail also hard to see.. This doesn't mean you have to keep it in the middle, I keep mine a couple levels under 0 for sharpness. but those are my eyes, and opinion.

Colour, try to play around with the colour to see what you like more.. In terms of high colour, or less colour.

Brightness, Usually using more brightness the t.v's lights shine through and its generally pretty bad to look at. but this is again, opinion.

Play around with these 3 settings.
*If your t.v. features colour temperature settings, then try setting them however way you like them too.
 
Speaking on color adjustments,

I dont like very colored things. I reduce it to something around 40% (default is 50% on my Bravia).

I reduce contrast a little.

The other settings i didnt even bothered about.
 
I used this DVD once to setup my TV and haven't touched the settings since.

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Highly recommended.
 
Dimitrov
Speaking on color adjustments,

I dont like very colored things. I reduce it to something around 40% (default is 50% on my Bravia).

I reduce contrast a little.

The other settings i didnt even bothered about.
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Same here on my Bravia - I knock down the colour to about 45%, lower the contrast and up the brightness relative to what people normally recommend for the settings.

Each unto their own though - there is an accurate picture, and there is a picture that you prefer. Most of the time, due to what they are used to, people don't always like an accurate picture. I certainly don't! ;)

Things like DVE for setting up the TV are OK, but I find you can get just as good results by using websites that have the same/similar charts on them. I also find that there is no right or wrong single setting for the various times of the day and the type of content you are watching. So, rather than go for an accurate Blu-ray image in a dark room and forget everything else, I set the TV up manually to be "jack of all trade".

To the OP, changing to a higher resolution TV will not make any difference really. As already recommended, have a play with the controls and see if you can achieve an image that you are happy with. Or, if you have the cash, splash out on a nice new big TV anyway!
 
Speaking of Gran Turismo, here are my values for Pioneer plasma screen:

- video output of CONSOLE set-up to 720p - because Prologue, Time Trial (and presumably GT5 as well) have 4XAA applied on 720p output, while 1080p settings limits AA to 2X
- "Limited RGB" output on console,
- game brightness to default,
- colour saturation on TV almost minimum in order to make green and red natural (-30 of 40, notice that Pioneer graphic card disables colour only in minimum setting of -40),
- contrast on +2 (of 40, only because of richness of black)
- brightness on -5 (of 40)
- sharpness on -6 (of 40)
- hue is default

All digital filters/effects/whatever - and there are many of them - fully disabled.

I have some colour balance values tuned to some extent (balance of red to green, yellow to magenta and blue to purple), but I presume that options are limited to my set, since I haven't seen them on other sets in otpions.
 
amar212
All digital filters/effects/whatever - and there are many of them - fully disabled.
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I would like to add to this that if your screen has a 'game mode', you should use it, as it bypasses most of the post-processing done by your screen. If you leave all the post-processing on, it will result in lag, since post-processing takes time (up to half a second on some TVs).
 
Sounds like a good chance to plug my thread again! :D

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=118469

I also can't recommend 'game mode'. If you properly calibrate your TV, there shouldn't be a need for it, as although it turns off a lot of post processing, it doesn't correct the colors of your TV, and can limit the range of color your TV can display. Although it is an easy way to fix any lag your TV may have when it comes to game inputs, its not the best way and should be used as a last resort.
 
Some useful tips in this thread. And i'd actually come on to post something similar. I'm interested in optimising my tv and audio performance to best realism results possible.

On the visuals front though, I had heard Casino Royale has a secret screen optimising walkthrough. Has anyone used it? Would it be worth buying to get good results?
 
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Lion-Face
Sounds like a good chance to plug my thread again! :D

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=118469

I also can't recommend 'game mode'. If you properly calibrate your TV, there shouldn't be a need for it, as although it turns off a lot of post processing, it doesn't correct the colors of your TV, and can limit the range of color your TV can display. Although it is an easy way to fix any lag your TV may have when it comes to game inputs, its not the best way and should be used as a last resort.
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Wow. Very useful thread there lion face. Thanks very much. 👍
 
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Captain Roh
Some useful tips in this thread. And i'd actually come on to post something similar. I'm interested in optimising my tv and audio performance to best realism results possible.

On the visuals front though, I had heard Casino Royale has a secret screen optimising walkthrough. Has anyone used it? Would it be worth buying to get good results?
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Watch the double posting there ;)

People quite rightly get a bit confused about how they should set up their TV etc., and for the most part, you can get 90% there without too much effort at all. Just some general tips:

  • Do not use game mode (for reasons stated above)
  • Personally, I use "Cinema" mode on my TV as a starting point
  • Manually turn off the image enhancements
  • The goal is to get as much contrast between black and white while maintaining good brightness
  • Setting the colour temperature on the "cool" side will appear to give you brighter, more vivid colours and whites, and is usually more preferable to people. However, most properly calibrated displays are set on the "warm" side.
  • Personally, I leave sharpness on 0
  • Use the same reference material in a normally lit room during the day and also again in a dark room in the evening. Ideally, you want settings that are a good compromise for both. Alternatively, you could have different settings for different conditions, but I just wanted fire-and-forget!
  • Accurate or not, whatever settings you use will look strange compared to what you are used to. The temptation is to constantly fiddle with them. Don't! You will get used to it over time.
That alone should get your something that is at least pleasing to your eye and somewhat approaching a calibrated display. To do it properly you need to measure the colour on the screen using something like "Spyder":

http://spyder.datacolor.com

This lets you get optimum greyscale and hence accurate colours, but you need to undertsand what you are doing. If money is no object, you can always get an ISF qualifiied technician in to do the calibration for you - costs quite a lot of money, but you will get the best out of your TV (which may not be worth the money, depending on how good your TV is!)
 
thanks for the replies.

Yeah I am using HDMI, RGB-limited & Super white Off.

I've adjusted my contrast/brightness (about a million times!) and have got a pic I'm happy with: 'Normal' warmth, 60% Con/Bright, all other settings Off.

(most recommend Movie/Warm for calibration, but I've found it looks yellowish and not very natural?).

So yeah I'm happy enough with my pic for tv purposes etc, just can't figure out why the F1 vid above looks so good! The lighting effects when he's rounding corners etc come through really strong, and they just don't on mine!

Was thinking though, it maybe how he's captured his video too, maybe it looks v.different from what was actually on his screen? I might try capturing mine and see how it looks.
 
Sadly, I don't have GT5 Prologue or even a PS3 (and I looove GT), but I have seen enough videos to say that the graphics are amazing. If I didn't know it was a game, and I was shown a replay without the heads up display, i might be convinced.
 
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dont know why, but looking at a gt4 photo mode picture seems more realistic that the gt5 one
call me insane but i think its true
 
Awesome tips Lion-face. :)

You probably wouldn't want your TV to look this way, but the most realistic I've ever seen GT5 is in these degraded, flickery videos:



Not being able to hear it helps too.
 
GT5 isn't photo-realistic because it hasn't been released yet.
If anything, what's photo-realistic is the real thing.

:dopey:
 
amar212
Speaking of Gran Turismo, here are my values for Pioneer plasma screen:

- video output of CONSOLE set-up to 720p - because Prologue, Time Trial (and presumably GT5 as well) have 4XAA applied on 720p output, while 1080p settings limits AA to 2X
- "Limited RGB" output on console,
- game brightness to default,
- colour saturation on TV almost minimum in order to make green and red natural (-30 of 40, notice that Pioneer graphic card disables colour only in minimum setting of -40),
- contrast on +2 (of 40, only because of richness of black)
- brightness on -5 (of 40)
- sharpness on -6 (of 40)
- hue is default

All digital filters/effects/whatever - and there are many of them - fully disabled.

I have some colour balance values tuned to some extent (balance of red to green, yellow to magenta and blue to purple), but I presume that options are limited to my set, since I haven't seen them on other sets in otpions.
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He cant use your settings.
 

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