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before i begin all my driving aids are set to 0, i've also been tryin suspension and other setups from the drift settings depot on this forum.

while using the DFP, i have been practising a lot wit the D1 RX7.

The problems i get is, once I get the rear out and start to drift i start sliding towards the inside of the turn and end up on the grass or into the wall. and then other times the rear just does not kick out enough, and i go oversteer into walls. i've also tried to experiment with 200 degree mode, but everytime i attempt break drifts the car just locks up in a straight line and its impossible to feint at the same time... but this doesnt happen on 900 degree!

I also been messin around with the Dual Shock control, i found drift a little more easier, but still i get the same problems where it just doesnt hold.

So wat do the majority of u guys use to drift, DFP (or other wheels) or the dual shock controller?? i've downloaded a few videos of people succesfully drifting, even with the DFP and i just dont understand why sometimes i get it right and other times its a nightmare!

apologies for the long post

i hope that maybe some experienced drifters can come here and give some hints on wat to do. and, also any other people having drifting issues can list their problems
 
lol get a different car, that RX7 drift car is terrible, get a newer RX7 and try it out, also.. post your suspension settings.

another thing may be, either one your countersteering to much and lining up the car to fast, or you may have to much grip and need to get some less stickier tires, or.. your suspension just isnt that great
 
well you seem to have a pretty good idea of what youre car is doing, and what you would like it to do. Try checking out the links in my signature for how to fine tune your vehicle to your driving style.

Also since youre just starting out, I suggest practicing with a lower powered car. Truenos and Levins are popular cars to learn on, as well as S13 Silvias as they are quite balanced. Many say you should practice with a stock car and N1s to get the feel, I say keep it stock but get a race suspension and all the weight reduction items. I currently have an S14 setup like that and its one of my favorites so far.

I use a DS2 so i cant help you with your wheel issues...good luck!
 
Well, you said you went to the drift settings depot. That implies you're wise enough to search for help. That's always good.

However, these questions are covered in various threads. Check the drift reference in my signature, I'm sure I sound like a broken record to some of the members here.

Also, check this thread, it may help with your DFP

Trick to drifting

Good luck and welcome to the forums! :)
 
lol the D1 FC was the first car that i actually got anywhere with in drifting! the HKS silvia... forget it! i keep trying though, i'll never stop.. just the feel u get when u actually hang it and hold it sideways!!!!

i have a trueno, but i found it hard to ger the rear out on that thing, its close to 270ps! may have to turbo charge it. I am thinking of getting an S13, i am more on the lookout for a 180sx since I own one myself, but I havent come across any in the used cars :(

thanks for ur advice so far guys!
 
..you shouldnt add HP to get it to slide, i have a 240 hp (juist like takumis :D NA) and it will slide quite well, and its suspension is still stock too.. just gotta know how to drift, go search google for Initial D, and go to first link and click on Drifting techniques and then learn from there ;)
 
yeha....i have the same problem you do

I use the settings in the depot and i get everything the use but i go to feint and the car swings one way then go to go the other way and i slide into the wall( is this because of the DS2) or i dont feint i hit the drift and then spin in the middle of the turn...........maybe i need to use my DFP but....i donnu how do you guys do it so well
 
it sounds to me like you need to rework your lines. I had the same problem when I first started out. Try different lines and speeds. Some people (like me) like to use the regular race line, some like to drift around the outside of the corner, some start low and drift high, others start high and drift down to the inside. Mix it up a little bit, try slowing down a bit just to get a feel for how your car is going to respond, try drifting just the 2nd half of a corner to get your counter steer down. Take whatever car you are most comfortable with and do a bunch of runs around a fairly easy track. I like Apricot Hill, it has a good mix of fast and slow corners, a bunch of linkable corners and is fairly wide so it has a good margin for error. Just keep practicing.
 
dsvw56
it sounds to me like you need to rework your lines. I had the same problem when I first started out. Try different lines and speeds. Some people (like me) like to use the regular race line, some like to drift around the outside of the corner, some start low and drift high, others start high and drift down to the inside. Mix it up a little bit, try slowing down a bit just to get a feel for how your car is going to respond, try drifting just the 2nd half of a corner to get your counter steer down. Take whatever car you are most comfortable with and do a bunch of runs around a fairly easy track. I like Apricot Hill, it has a good mix of fast and slow corners, a bunch of linkable corners and is fairly wide so it has a good margin for error. Just keep practicing.
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I agree with dsvw56.

Everyone else's suggestions are all very good, but it sounds *to me* like you're just taking the wrong lines at the wrong speeds. If you're not going fast enough, you cannot keep the drift going and you'll either end up hitting the inside wall or spinning out. If you go into the corner too fast, you'll either have understeer (because of rear downforce or something like that) or you'll fly off the track.

I'm only at average level with the drifters on this forum (not the best, not the worst), but I've done lots of practice and I think I recognize your problems as being my own!

Also, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the D1 FC (RX-7), it was the second car I ever drifted with in the game, and I learned a LOT about the drifting physics from that car. I'll try to PM you within the next few hours with a good setup for the D1 BP-Falken RX-7, and if it's good enough I'll post them.

In conclusion, my advice is to take your D1 FC, go to your favorite drifting track (or at least an easy one, NOT Nurburgring lol, bumpy), and do about 30 or 40 laps. Once you've done that, you'll know exactly how fast to go into each corner and in no time you'll be drifting like a pro!

Good luck to ya! 👍
 
i have a DFP and use to and still sometimes have the same problems as you, so ill try to help as much as i can, first of all theres really no brake drifting in GT4 so ya just gotta choose a different style, make sure the front susp. is softer than the back, and also make sure your car doesnt have over like 390hp my S-15 has like 379 an it does really good in the corners. also try to make your own drift settings because youll be more accustom to them. keep front camber value high than rear, an you dont want the rear to be like more than 1.5 so just try making a setup yourself an see how that goes, its really hard to learn how to drift on DFP, just practice and practice, hopefully this helps. and im just a newb drifter so plz no one yell at me for tryin to help even if im wrong, k thanks good luck!! 👍
 
do 3 laps, if something isnt right, tweak your settings slightly. rinse and repeat until youre comfortable with the car. once your settings are dialed in, go do 20 laps. repeat daily. happy drifting! :D
 
no... not slightly, when you change something for a first time, change it a LOT, and see what difference it makes, go back and then change it to about where you think you need it, and keep going from there, and remember NEVER.. and i mean NEVER! change more than one thing at a time (unless you know what your doing)

oh and yes, follow what jeekee said, make your own drift setup; you can look at other setups just to see what they did to get a general idea, but everyone handles a car a different way, and believe me; if you go out and race Live for Speed a LOT, and get some other peoples setups for cars and then race.. better hope you know what your doing lol
 
thanks for all ur replies! i have been entering at different speeds, and then trying real life things.. when i learned to drift in my real life car, i would enter corners at say 80 - 90 kmph but to my advantage i have a clutch pedal which i could drop and get the rear end out! but in GT4 entering corners at that speed did help me succeed a proper drift where i powered out nicely, this was the the ds2! i've come close with the dfp but yeah lol

burnout060

i'd be happy to try out ur settings.. if u have time then do it, its no big deal

thankss mate!
 
shAkIeL
thanks for all ur replies! i have been entering at different speeds, and then trying real life things.. when i learned to drift in my real life car, i would enter corners at say 80 - 90 kmph but to my advantage i have a clutch pedal which i could drop and get the rear end out! but in GT4 entering corners at that speed did help me succeed a proper drift where i powered out nicely, this was the the ds2! i've come close with the dfp but yeah lol

burnout060

i'd be happy to try out ur settings.. if u have time then do it, its no big deal

thankss mate!
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I'm writing down my settings right now, I'll send you a PM with the settings and I'll post them in the settings depot for anyone else who is interested.
 
I didn't want to start a new topic with this little voice of mine, so I'll just say it here..

I currently run a DFP. Drifting with the DFP is noticably harder then with the DS2. The benefit, however, of drifting the hard way, is a much cleaner looking drift (with exception of TankSpanker, who makes the DS2 drift look silky smooth!). My DS2 drifts look coaxed, and unenthusiastic, while the DFP drift replays look lifelike, and animated.. currently im running an MR2 @ trial mountain (i know.. cliche..), i'll post a vid up once i borrow my friends webcam.. you'll be surprised at how fluid DFP drifting really is~
 
Oh yea, one helpful tip i can give you is to lay off the throttle when the wheel is countersteering for you.. at most give it small blips and never tap the brakes, this could send you into a spin. Be relaxed, and let the wheel do the initial work for you (as noted over and over in this sub-forum). I find running the first person view w/the wheel display on center (press select while paused) allows me to focus more on the brake points and less on the speed.. crank your volume up so u can hear the revs, and don't constrain yourself to how slow u think you're going... usually those slow drifts are in the proximity of 30-40 mph, and when combined with fluid motion, makes drifts look very much "alive". /end rant.
 

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