Dragonage

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Just a quick one on this title from Bioware, I was looking forward to Dragonage until I saw some shody review scores, in particular IGN's writeup. So I decided against picking it up in favour of Demon Souls.....alas that title is without an EU distributor so is unavailable in the UK.

So I bit the bullet and bought Dragonage yesterday, I started playing around 9pm then when I next looked at the clock it was 4am.........not had a game do that to me in a long while!

Now heres the odd part, graphicaly it's on par if slightly better than the ageing oblivion but the open ended feel of oblivion is far supirior to the hemed in feel of Dragon age. Now I'm using oblivion as a measure as most people have some experience of it, where the two differ is the all important story and imersiveness it thus creates. Dragonage, though using the time honoured knights and dragons formula of fantasy story telling has excelled in this area. The characters have real depth and truely have a place in the story. There are many cinematic set pieces which all aid in draging you in kicking and screaming.

One other thing which really stands out is the interaction between characters, the usual conversation system is there where you select your replie or question from a list, but it's intelligently thought out, which other games of this ilk sometimes struggle with. It's more "adult" is the description which best fits LOL

I've started as an elven mage which has so far thrown the storyline down a particular path, one which has seen my character first of all seperated from society by the templars for being a magic usar and in effect held as a prisoner with fellow mages in a "tower of learning" and secondly has seen my character racialy discriminated against by others as elves are seen as second class citizens and slaves. This throws up some very peculiar situations as I have become a greywarden, not an organisation to be taken lightly as they are all that stands between the races and the dark hoards....dum dum duum! LOL

Just to round this up I tend to play these games as mr nice, be nice and you get the information you want from people plus there perception of you in the game tends to keep you out of trouble.......well after 7 hours of taking racial abuse from game characters I finaly went to the darkside and was given a number of options after being stoped on a bridge and asked to "pay a toll" after killing half of the bandits they surrendered, I then took there ill gotten gains......I then had an option, leave them, make them run away, or kill them.......yep, one elven comment to far and I massacered the lot of them.......I do like it when a game actualy changes your moral stance, anyone mentions my pointy ears and there getting it! LOL

Won't mention anything in the storyline as it would be a spoiler, needless to say though but the storyline is center to the whole game and is crafted beautifuly, in fact Tolkien himself would aprove of this one. To sum it up Dragon age is your standard RPG fare, leveling up, ataining weapons and armour along the way with many battles thrown in to keep you busy. there is a party system which sees you able to control all the members in your part and even change there stats and equipment which is a step beyond oblivions system. but theres nothing that stands out from the crowd as far as these gameplay elements are concerned, but the imersion and pace is epic thanks to the story and character interaction, you do find yourself guenuinly scared when facing the hoard, not because you character might have to start from the last save point but because the imersive conection you feel with all the characters. for this reason alone, if your into RPG's then Dragonage is a game I highly recomend for you.
 
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The game was awful on the console, a buddy of mine has it for the PS3 and just for kicks I tried it out. They shouldn't even bother releasing games like this on consoles because the controls sucks to epic proportions. I have Dragon Age on the PC and it's fantastic, although when you get down to it, it is just Mass Effect wearing an elf costume.
 
Hmm what was so awful about it? I have the PS3 version and find it great, I also have 2 friends on the 360 who speak higly of it as well. The graphics are nothing special and yes theres occasional slowdown but not much. I haven't found any problems with the control method but again I'm using oblivion as a benchmark.

I have to concide Dragonage really dosn't push the boundaries of console RPG's and the story is "generic" fantasy fare but the story emersion makes up for it's lak of "graphical flash" The basics are right and that for me is the key to a good RPG.

Didn't see anything wrong with the controls? Takes a while to get to grips with as theres alot of menus and actions but once you have got the "hotkeys" sorted you have 6 buttons you can assighn spells and items to also the weapon loadout fast switching system works very wel, far better than blivions system in fact. The PC system with keyboard and mouse I would suspect however would be more suited to this but I have no issue with the joypad.
 
The assigning of spells and talents was odd, I suppose I was used to having 20 slots I could access with a simple click on the PC. I have a really hard time playing anything like Dragon Age on a console.

The graphics on the PS3 weren't very good either when compared with the PC (I got everything cranked as high as it'll go). It was sort of disappointing to be honest.
 
control scheme is allways going to be a compromise on this type of game with a pad rather than a keyboard but it works well. As for the graphics I agree there nothing special but do the job. However the PC and console versions share the same key factor which is the story and it's emersion through character interaction which really make Dragon age shine.
 
I just can't stop playing this game, it's awesome, like any Bioware RPG. Personally, I think the controls work really well (with a bit of tweaking here and there ;)). I played games like KOTOR and KOTOR 2 on the console as well and I feel this type of game works really well on a console, given the turn-based nature of the combat.

And, like most Bioware games, it contains lots of humor besides the serious stuff (see below).
I play as human rogue, and I now am romantically involved with a female mage and a male elf assassin. :lol: ;)

The only drawback in my opinion is the fact that it's not a true open world, but rather a collection of maps. That's where games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 really shine.
 
Thank god someone likes it, thought I was the only one LOL as for the humour I have to agree it is very funny in places, in the mages tower theres an aprentice practicing fire magic and it gets a bit out of hand.....he basicly sets fire to himself.......but after he's been put out if you have a quick chat with him he's unusaly bouyant about the whole thing saying "I must be getting the hang of it, I've only set fire to myself once today!" LOL
The humour is allways curt oneliners that are usualy in the background but it dose lighten the mood LOL
 
Alastair is awesome. It's kind of annoying though, his idea of battle tactics is "RUN HEADLONG INTO DANGER."
 
Edit: Well I accidentally revived a really old thread with nothing terribly constructive. I am sorry.

I will say that I picked DA up a couple days ago and even on PS3 it's a top notch RPG experience, even on console.
 
Love the Final Fantasy series, love Oblivion. Looking for something new. Can I just ask, as a lover of in-depth stat-heavy fantasy RPGs, is DragonAge: Origins worth getting? I own a PS3, and have read reviews of this game. Some good, some bad. The bad ones mainly concentrated on the control system and graphical limitations when compared to the PC version, but frankly that doesn't bother me.
All I want is another engrossing, detailed RPG with a good story that can suck the hours away. Still playing Oblivion after almost 2 years. The more detailed a game the better as far as I'm concerned.
Never played a Bioware game before, and Dragonage is going cheap in a local store for £20 brand new. Seems like a good deal to me.
 
Golfman, if you are looking for a stat heavy game, this is for you. You can breeze through the game in auto setting if you wish but the best part of the game is getting involved in the minutest details and when you do,the smallest skirmishes can turn into epic battles.

Although it does a good job of making you not notice, it's a massively linear game compared with Oblivion but the two games can't really be compared. DA: O is all about the battle and that's where it really shines. It also has a very Tolkien feel to it.
 
Golfman, if you are looking for a stat heavy game, this is for you. You can breeze through the game in auto setting if you wish but the best part of the game is getting involved in the minutest details and when you do,the smallest skirmishes can turn into epic battles.

Although it does a good job of making you not notice, it's a massively linear game compared with Oblivion but the two games can't really be compared. DA: O is all about the battle and that's where it really shines. It also has a very Tolkien feel to it.

Well I am one of the few people who loved the new FF game so it doesn't matter how linear Dragonage is. Oblivion was a masterpiece and a one of it's kind so I wouldn't compare it to anything else.
It also happens that I am a Tolkien fan, and read the LOTR trilogy, and loved the movies.
So Dragonage sounds just what I'm after. So is the £20 worth it?
Oh and just incase you are wondering, I'm not a 'beardie'(a popular term, bordering on 'geek', that is used to describe devotees of everything to do with role-playing). I just like fantasy RPGs. In fact I saw the LOTR movies first, and heard that the books had much more in them. So I read the trilogy. Shame Peter Jackson didn't keep the book's ending in the films.
 
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Well I am one of the few people who loved the new FF game so it doesn't matter how linear Dragonage is. Oblivion was a masterpiece and a one of it's kind so I wouldn't compare it to anything else.
It also happens that I am a Tolkien fan, and read the LOTR trilogy, and loved the movies.
So Dragonage sounds just what I'm after. So is the £20 worth it?
Oh and just incase you are wondering, I'm not a 'beardie'(a popular term, bordering on 'geek', that is used to describe devotees of everything to do with role-playing). I just like fantasy RPGs. In fact I saw the LOTR movies first, and heard that the books had much more in them. So I read the trilogy. Shame Peter Jackson didn't keep the book's ending in the films.

I don't think there is anything geeky about RPGs. I did when I was younger and was happy to only play shooters and sports games. I picked up Fallout 3 about a year ago and realized there is so much more depth to some games and F3 got me hooked on RPG's really. I've been playing Oblivion on and off and I'm still playing fallout 3 religiously. I only recently picked up DA: O after reading some good reviews on it and I am happy I purchased it. It may be linear, but it's a long game and it has plenty to keep you going so I totally think it's worth the cash.
 
I don't think there is anything geeky about RPGs. I did when I was younger and was happy to only play shooters and sports games. I picked up Fallout 3 about a year ago and realized there is so much more depth to some games and F3 got me hooked on RPG's really. I've been playing Oblivion on and off and I'm still playing fallout 3 religiously. I only recently picked up DA: O after reading some good reviews on it and I am happy I purchased it. It may be linear, but it's a long game and it has plenty to keep you going so I totally think it's worth the cash.

Oh don't get me wrong I wasn't in any way suggesting that RPGs and people who love Role Playing are geeks, although there are narrow minded people who would say so. I have loved playing RPGs ever Shining Force on the Megadrive.
 
I am currently in RPG heaven courtesy of BioWare. As I said in another thread, I just picked up the Baldur's Gate boxset for my laptop and am enjoying the first game immensely. It may be an old game with simple isometric graphics but there is a beauty and detail to it that puts a lot of current games to shame.
Also, just bought DragonAge for £15! It went down a fiver since my last visit to the store a few weeks ago. Snapped it up immediately, and just started playing as a human warrior. My poor FFXIII will have to sit on the shelf for a while, cos these games are brilliant. I am now a new fan of BioWare. Did I read somewhere that there is a DragonAge 2 coming?
Now all we need is them to bring Mass Effect to the PS3........
 
I agree that the PS3 version is far inferior to the PC version, however due to the different nature of controls it couldn't really be helped.

I disagree with the linearity though, yes it's linear if you only do the main quest and nothing else. But there is heaps of room to explore people (rather than areas) in the game if you want too.

Also ridiculous re-playability.
 
I agree that the PS3 version is far inferior to the PC version, however due to the different nature of controls it couldn't really be helped.

I disagree with the linearity though, yes it's linear if you only do the main quest and nothing else. But there is heaps of room to explore people (rather than areas) in the game if you want too.

Also ridiculous re-playability.

So you are saying it is not as linear as what some people say? Even better! Sorry but I've only started playing it and haven't got that far(still talking to people in the castle). Just wanted to know what the game was like before I bought it, but I'm glad I did. And at £15 what a bargain.
 
So you are saying it is not as linear as what some people say? Even better! Sorry but I've only started playing it and haven't got that far(still talking to people in the castle). Just wanted to know what the game was like before I bought it, but I'm glad I did. And at £15 what a bargain.

I think people use the work linear too strongly. Any game that has an on-going storyline is going to be 'linear', that's just how storyline works. Even GTA4 is 'linear' per se, cause you can't kill the final boss guy first.

Dragonage isn't like say FF13 where you run down a single corridor doing nothing but the main storyline. You can evolve the storyline in a different order, do side quests etc etc. Just because you can't run around the whole map I don't think makes it a linear game. To be honest, I think the game has an almost perfect combination of freedom while keeping pace and progressing the story.
 
My only gripe about this game is the visuals. It doesn't bother me that much to be honest, but BioWare could have tried a bit harder - PS3's visual capabilities seem to have been wasted. Not even as good looking as Oblivion.
But it is still a fantastic game.
 
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