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- twodogsgolden
Intro:
This is for beginners, I will not tune cars for you, I feel like my time would be better spent educating people on how to tune drift cars.
This is for a DS3 controller, may work with a wheel.
My goal is to help your car drift better
You want to promote understeer in a drift car, setting the car up to oversteer would make it a bitch to drift.
*note* these numbers came from a '88 iroc z concept, focus more on the definitions and what each setting does then apply it to your car. These numbers are guidelines.
Ride Height:
I like to set my ride height 5 above both front or back. Most people prefer a lower rear end higher front end. Lower rear end will put more weight on the rear giving the the rear end traction.
Spring Rate:
I like to go to 11k in the front and about 6k in the rear
A stiffer front will provide more stability and in this care give more understeer.
*note* these values change from car to car, I try and multiply the rear buy 1.8 to get the front. I find that is my most successful ratio.
I left dampers alone
Anti-roll bars:
You will want stiffer anti-roll bars in the front to promote understeer and softer in the rear. I'm not 100% exactly how this helps, I know it does promote understeer in the rear. I do find that with 6 in the front and 3 in the rear I find the car very controllable and gives a good feel for the rear end.
Camber:
This is just finding what works for you in the front, usually 1.5-3 degrees, set your rear at a low amount like .2 degrees or less. Front camber will put the tire flat during a turn and since your rear tire is spinning, you want it flat so you have more "front bite" during the drift.
Toe:
I'll try and do my best to define toe here as it applies to drifting.
Front:
"Negative toe increases a cars cornering ability. When the vehicle begins to turn inward towards a corner, the inner wheel will be angled more aggressively. Since its turning radius is smaller than the outer wheel due to the angle, it will pull the car in that direction." (yospeed.com). I like to go with about -0.06 degrees of toe in the front.
Rear:
Since we are trying to promote understeer on our drift car we want positive toe on the rear. Positive toe will push the wheels together, adding grip ,and promoting understeer. I haven't dialed in a good setting, but I like to be around 0.05-0.1 degrees of toe in the rear.
LSD (Limited Slip Differential):
I like a locking diff, with a locking diff the tires will spin at the same speed no matter what.
to set this up you will set the initial torque to 5, acceleration sensitivity to 60 and braking sensitivity to 60.
Quoting TwinTurboCH:
"'Acceleration' setting determines how much the LSD locks under acceleration, 'deceleration' setting determines how much the LSD works when under deceleration, fairly simple.
In RWD drift car, you want LSD effect under accel and decel, hence it's called a 2-way diff, because it provides LSD effect i both directions, accel and decel. Equivalent setting in GT5: Initial 10, Accel 60, Decel 60
Some race RWD's use what is called a 1.5-way, which provides full LSD effect under acceleration, but only 50% of that LSD effect under breaking, which helps stop the back end breaking away on the way into corners in tail-happy cars. Equivalent setting in GT5: Initial 10, Accel 60, Decel 30
FWD's use what is called a 1-way diff which only works under acceleration, meaning that turn-in is not affected in any way. Equivalent setting in GT5: Initial 10, Accel 60, Decel 5."
Any more questions? Check out these links.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/general-tuning-guide.297354/
http://www.modified.com/tech/modp-1201-basic-drift-chassis-setup/viewall.html
http://www.drifting.com/forums/tech...setup-toe-camber-spring-rates-learn-here.html
Please let me know if I have anything correct. If you disagree with how I have it set up I will be more than happy to. Please do not say I have something wrong then don't give an explanation why it is wrong, that is helpful for no one.
Best of luck with your drift cars, I hope you guys learned something.
This is for beginners, I will not tune cars for you, I feel like my time would be better spent educating people on how to tune drift cars.
This is for a DS3 controller, may work with a wheel.
My goal is to help your car drift better
You want to promote understeer in a drift car, setting the car up to oversteer would make it a bitch to drift.
*note* these numbers came from a '88 iroc z concept, focus more on the definitions and what each setting does then apply it to your car. These numbers are guidelines.
Ride Height:
I like to set my ride height 5 above both front or back. Most people prefer a lower rear end higher front end. Lower rear end will put more weight on the rear giving the the rear end traction.
Spring Rate:
I like to go to 11k in the front and about 6k in the rear
A stiffer front will provide more stability and in this care give more understeer.
*note* these values change from car to car, I try and multiply the rear buy 1.8 to get the front. I find that is my most successful ratio.
I left dampers alone
Anti-roll bars:
You will want stiffer anti-roll bars in the front to promote understeer and softer in the rear. I'm not 100% exactly how this helps, I know it does promote understeer in the rear. I do find that with 6 in the front and 3 in the rear I find the car very controllable and gives a good feel for the rear end.
Camber:
This is just finding what works for you in the front, usually 1.5-3 degrees, set your rear at a low amount like .2 degrees or less. Front camber will put the tire flat during a turn and since your rear tire is spinning, you want it flat so you have more "front bite" during the drift.
Toe:
I'll try and do my best to define toe here as it applies to drifting.
Front:
"Negative toe increases a cars cornering ability. When the vehicle begins to turn inward towards a corner, the inner wheel will be angled more aggressively. Since its turning radius is smaller than the outer wheel due to the angle, it will pull the car in that direction." (yospeed.com). I like to go with about -0.06 degrees of toe in the front.
Rear:
Since we are trying to promote understeer on our drift car we want positive toe on the rear. Positive toe will push the wheels together, adding grip ,and promoting understeer. I haven't dialed in a good setting, but I like to be around 0.05-0.1 degrees of toe in the rear.
LSD (Limited Slip Differential):
I like a locking diff, with a locking diff the tires will spin at the same speed no matter what.
to set this up you will set the initial torque to 5, acceleration sensitivity to 60 and braking sensitivity to 60.
Quoting TwinTurboCH:
"'Acceleration' setting determines how much the LSD locks under acceleration, 'deceleration' setting determines how much the LSD works when under deceleration, fairly simple.
In RWD drift car, you want LSD effect under accel and decel, hence it's called a 2-way diff, because it provides LSD effect i both directions, accel and decel. Equivalent setting in GT5: Initial 10, Accel 60, Decel 60
Some race RWD's use what is called a 1.5-way, which provides full LSD effect under acceleration, but only 50% of that LSD effect under breaking, which helps stop the back end breaking away on the way into corners in tail-happy cars. Equivalent setting in GT5: Initial 10, Accel 60, Decel 30
FWD's use what is called a 1-way diff which only works under acceleration, meaning that turn-in is not affected in any way. Equivalent setting in GT5: Initial 10, Accel 60, Decel 5."
Any more questions? Check out these links.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/general-tuning-guide.297354/
http://www.modified.com/tech/modp-1201-basic-drift-chassis-setup/viewall.html
http://www.drifting.com/forums/tech...setup-toe-camber-spring-rates-learn-here.html
Please let me know if I have anything correct. If you disagree with how I have it set up I will be more than happy to. Please do not say I have something wrong then don't give an explanation why it is wrong, that is helpful for no one.
Best of luck with your drift cars, I hope you guys learned something.
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