Drifting easier with Enthusia

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I bought Enthusia yesterday, so I've been playing like 4 or 5 hours. The only thing that interested me from this game was the physics, I know it has less cars than GT4, less tracks, graphics are less polished, etc, etc.

Conclusions so far (only applicable to steering wheel):

The amount of tire grip that you can feel through the wheel seems about right. GT4 has too grip, or too friction going through the tires. Loss of grip in Gt4 is less predictable than in Enthusia. For the first time I could drift (with a 4WD) EACH turn in Tsukuba. You feel the wheel less "heavy", in GT4, even at high speeds there's too much friction going on.

FF cars understeer more reallisticaly, IMO.

Looking forward to unlock Nurburgring.
 
YES YES YES!!! JUST THE NEWS I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!

Ahem. Please post any more impressions as you erm, have them. I'm also interested in Enthu purely for the physics, and the drifting possibilities. I take it you played with the DFP? Is it okay to countersteer, I heard it had problems with GT4.

Also, any chance of a video upload?
 
I use the dual shock 2.. but soo far, teh phsyics is nice.. esp with teh clutch button function.. I think those game reviewers dont know chit cuz they are not into driving, and over look the true handling characteristics that cars have.

Game is awesome! plus I do enjoy japanese games since for some reason they have this feeling that US games (insert Forza here) just lack... Forza is too Need for speed underground (crappiest game ever, people only like it cuz of rice, which is a USA trend. not japan, being a import car enthusiest, I find underground to be very degrading).

Cant wait to unlock more cars.. Think of the game as a racing RPG, you gotta level up, and unlock more features. it actually makes you want to play the game. 👍
 
Yeah using DFP I thought the real physics of Enthusia were going to make it harder to drift but its actually kind of easier to do then in GT4.
 
i bought this game at ganmestop for 30 dollars used, they said tghe person who returned it said it blowed and i said ill see for myself, i ended up liking it, a lot! it a different turn from gt4 and a nice break from it, i love the way they did the "tests" holy crap lol, it isnt all the best lines, they make u brake / gas at innapropriate times, like an arcade racer would.


im not sure if im into the phsycis yet, itll take time to learn it away from gran turismo, but ill get there
 
slo-car, that was awesome cheers. I can definitely see what you mean, were you counter-steering with that slide? Did you work out a way to do donuts in 2nd?
 
I would like to add my comments for those who come here to read and decide if they should buy Enthusia or not.

Yesterday I only had half an hour to play and instead using the DFP I quickly picked up the DS2 for some laps... It was a huge difference and not an inspiring experience. What makes the game so good, weightshifting in all directions, was making it very hard to drive smooth with the DS2.

This comes from the analog sticks not using the full range (first half only for the steering input). This made the cars 'wobble' from left to right. So, the physics are that good that I would reccommend using a DFP (or aother steering wheel) for this game always/only.

Like many people said: this game is excelling GT4 in the physics, but like in gt4 where using the DS2 seems a disadvantage, using the ds2 in Enthusia is even a bigger disadvantage.

To make a positive ending:

Need an extra argument for buying your DFP? and want to drift with relative ease?
Buy Enthusia!
 
I say this game handles DS2 very very well, a lot better that GT4. In GT i just couldn't use buttons, only a stick would alow me to adjust the amount of the throttle. In Enthusia i can do that with a button. Turning is very smooth. Sometimes to get an S in a DE test i had to use DS2 instead of DFP, as it is much easier and I'm not such a driving expert.
 
I've gotten used to using the analog sticks to control the gas in GT4. I got pretty good, being able to drift pretty well. And the rubber band trick made it much easier still. But with Enthusia, the range for gas (assuming you put gas as up on the right analog stick) is INCREDIBLY small. If you look at the acceleration gauge, it will only change during about 1/4 of the stick's range from neutral to full up. The rest is either no throttle or full throttle. Kind of disappointing. I'm not too keen on using the buttons for the gas, but oh well.

Then again, I was thinking of buying a wheel...
 
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I've gotten used to using the analog sticks to control the gas in GT4. I got pretty good, being able to drift pretty well. And the rubber band trick made it much easier still. But with Enthusia, the range for gas (assuming you put gas as up on the right analog stick) is INCREDIBLY small. If you look at the acceleration gauge, it will only change during about 1/4 of the stick's range from neutral to full up. The rest is either no throttle or full throttle. Kind of disappointing. I'm not too keen on using the buttons for the gas, but oh well.

Then again, I was thinking of buying a wheel...
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The wheel is the way to go.👍
 
I disagree with the above post. Unless you are willing to devote alot of time to mastering the physics and therefore encountering the most rewarding aspect of the whole game, i wouldnt waste your time with a rental. This is probably one of the all time worst games to rent but never buy actually lol. What worthwhile game gives you so much little initial reward when you are a newbie? Its all about the deep physics system. :)
 
I can almost drift the entire first long right hand turn on Autumn Hill clockwise. It's sick when I can beat up STi's and Evo's with a crappy little LVL2 Mazda Cosmo by doing that.
 
For a truly drift-friendly car, try the Ruf RGT. That thing will bend over backwards to do exactly what you want, even if you change your mind mid-drift...
 
I've driven my 95miata for over 8yrs, and sometime I "drive" it so hard, as hard as I want to kill it! At the empty parking lots or under wet condition, drift sometime, depend on the streets or tracffic. What's I'm trying to say is. I'd played GT1,2,3 and 4 almost 10yrs, and I enjoy (now still) them because no games can/could get closer ( graphic, and the way how GT show us " how to race") ! I like GT because I purly love to feel(play? learn?) " driving " outside my car! But since GT3 they eliminated the same-class race (GT1,2 ... you have to to race with the same or near power of cars) and now you even can use F1 to race with those "sport cars"? Is it racing? ..also, N2O? oh! But yet, I still enjoy it, I keep my style and race without looking at those trophies, Gold or B-spec point. I race with my skill. Yes, I may stupid. I used to lighten my cars (in game), slightly gain the power, and pay most of the time to adjust those suspension setting and gear ratio. that's all! But yet, once you can monopoly those setup, you will feel upset because you can't tell what car you are driving when you are in-car camera mod.

Since I did some search (yes.. so far, GT1234 and TXZero is only games I have so far! I sold back those ProDrive and NFS (forgot it's name!)) until I buy it. Most of searches just emphyised it's realistic physic, and thus I gave it a try! And WOW, I realized Enthusia can give me the realistic driving feeling (of course, graphic is a bit minus! and sound.. hmm.. not much worse than GT, but not impressive as well!). Well, I'm not saying GT is poor. but side by side comparasion, .. as I am the one who love to learn driving, I prefer Enthusia.

Cons? yes of course! during under/oversteer.. steering wheel should be feel no direction(become lighter). Long time ago, ProDrive did it, but the rest of the game are really made me sick! Well, no of cars? hmm.. well, yes... it need some more cars too ( but, to me it's forgivable too! Hey look, F355 only has 2 cars! one is originally and one is modified. )! At least, Enthusia's gaming system seems leaking of instruction... to tell players how to win the new tracks or cars. Even I've trouble to see my garage cars too. Hope time will solve it!

Today, Enthusia just hit GT's weakness point IMO, not because it's new, just because its real! Unfortunately, folks like race with superspot cars, nice graphic with cool techno/rap (just like NFS... F360? SLK? oh~ come on!! Well, those exh sound is really close to real one, but hey, I'm driving.. not listening! Specially in driving/racing game..Sound can help but can't make you feel the real, right?) . I'm not saying someone isn't mature enough. But. . hey, if you are car freak, you'll see what I'm trying to say!

IMHO, maybe stupid, since F355 then GTs, Enthusia should be the best driving simulation. yes, I said driving! If you race you should know how to drive first!

Mark
 
concussion
I've gotten used to using the analog sticks to control the gas in GT4. I got pretty good, being able to drift pretty well. And the rubber band trick made it much easier still. But with Enthusia, the range for gas (assuming you put gas as up on the right analog stick) is INCREDIBLY small. If you look at the acceleration gauge, it will only change during about 1/4 of the stick's range from neutral to full up. The rest is either no throttle or full throttle. Kind of disappointing. I'm not too keen on using the buttons for the gas, but oh well.

Then again, I was thinking of buying a wheel...
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heh and I thought i was the only one to use the analog stick for gas.

Hmmm.. well I don't know whether to buy some fat tires for my mtn bike or buy Enthusia. I don't have a DFP should I still get it? eh I guess i'll go pick it up tomorrow and ride on some bald ass tires for a while.
 
Come on, i haven't played the game yet, but you guys are saying that the physics is better, because you can drift easily.. I mean, you really think that drift is so easy to do, and control in RL, then you would be seeing people in the streets just drifting they way to work if it is that easy.. I mean, in GT4 it is really hard, but it is doable, and what satisfaction it is when you make a good drift, it just feels so good... But if it is easier, i think i would be bored quick...
 
We're not saying that physics are better, just because you can drift easier, we say that the physics are better because the whole physics engine is more realistic and also drifting is more natural than in gt4. And I gave my bro a try in enthusia, he could do a donut, but failed everytime he tried to drift, and that was on that 'airport lot'.

Sims also got much more similar recently(thats actually good), I will give you an example, I learned drifting with 900degrees in live for speed s1 back in early 2004, then i had no problem with that in richard burns rally, same was for gt4 prologue(Got also video of my drifting somewhere on hdd), I could also easily slide in gt4 bmw1 demo(tcs, but sliding is possible) and same goes for gt4jap demo and gt4 full. And when I tried enthusia.. Whoa, I could easily drift too..
 

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